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Varune
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Originally posted by pleno1

Wouldn't have done too much different, probably would have booked a 4-5 session course with a coach when at NL100, literally everybody playing NL100 NEEDS a coach or to really study a lot if they are to succeed.

So that's what i'm doing wrong. What coach would you pick?


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Anymore more internet/lntemet (did I get it right?) maths vids coming out?


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Originally posted by pleno1

Originally posted by Ickki

Originally posted by pleno1
Ok, we WANT to have a 3bet value range, a calling range and a 3bet bluffing range, vs regs.

Is this generally the case that we want 50% Value 50% Bluffs? Or does this change, when Villain has higher or lower FT3bet? I.e. if he has 80% Ft3bet, shouldn't our 3bet Range consist of 20% Value and 80% Bluffs?

Generally, we should aim to have 50% bluffs, 50% value hands, just from a balanced perspective, but we can always manipulate this. For example, Btn opens, we 3bet AJs from the SB, this is initially for value because he will peel JQ/JK and worse aces, but when he 4bets we decide to fold :)

If somebody has an exploitive stat then its likely we don't need to be balance vs them. For example, if it folds to us in the SB and somebody folds to 55% of steals, we should open 100%, once they change their strategy we can then start choosing different hands for different parts of our range.

I'm confused now. Some people say from a GTO perspective you should 3bet bluff the same fraction of hands as villain folds to 3bets. So if he folds 80% to 3bets I should have 80% bluffs and 20% value or did I get this wrong?

I.e. I want to 3bet around 25% of Villains opening Range, say he opens 28% from CO, I want to 3bet 7%. And he has fold to 3bet of 80%. Does this mean I should value 3bet 1.4% and bluff 3bet 5.6% of my range?

From your previous post it seems like I shouldn't, but rather balance it 3.5% value and 3.5% bluffs. But then I wouldn't be exploiting the fact that he folds too much, would I?

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NightFrostaSS
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GTO play never cares of villain tendencies as GTO is unexploitable play which means you aren't opening up your game to exploitation due to adjusting to your opponents exploitable tendencies. For example if your opponent folds to 80% of 3bets then full exploitation play would be to 3bet any two cards that have lesser EV of calling than of 3betting. Folding in that case any hand would be passing up ev as 3betting 72o would be higher ev than 0ev of folding.

Obviously opponents aren't that stupid and will quickly readjust so we don' go and 3bet any two in practice.

Now GTO or balanced strategy would always 3bet same range of hands regardless of if opponent is folding 80% or 50% of the time. AFAIK preflop is the hardest street to solve when it comest to GTO stuff as opposed to river and I'm not aware of a solid GTO model for solving preflop 3betting ranges.

What I personally like to do in case I want to be balanced is add enough bluff combos to my 3bet value range so that I wouldn't be folding too much to 4bets. (works best in position vs EP raises or vs shorties) So for example if your opponents 4bet would have to work roughly 60% of the time for him to break even on his play then you'd have to have exactly 40% of value hands in your 3betting range and 60% of bluffs.

I'm pretty noob at this stuff so if anyone sees any obv flaws in my logic I'd be very grateful if it would be pointed out.


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Originally posted by Varune

Originally posted by pleno1

Wouldn't have done too much different, probably would have booked a 4-5 session course with a coach when at NL100, literally everybody playing NL100 NEEDS a coach or to really study a lot if they are to succeed.

So that's what i'm doing wrong. What coach would you pick?

Me ofc :P

Oblioo is a good coach for a good price too. Lnternet is v good bit maybe too expensive for nl100 players.


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New coaching tonight at 6.30 GMT speaking about databases and how to get the best out of your database.

Come join!


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Is this Manu's coaching?


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No, separate coaching from me first with one of the brains behind PokerTracker. Gonna be fun :)


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Originally posted by pleno1
No, separate coaching from me first with one of the brains behind PokerTracker. Gonna be fun :)

Cool! Was wondering when you said new coaching!

This'll give me something better to do than watch Liverpool


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Originally posted by pleno1
New coaching tonight at 7.30 GMT speaking about databases and how to get the best out of your database.

Come join!

Post any questions at all in this thread and we will cover them tonight.

#wesoexcited


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gxtwo
Joined: 15.12.2010
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Any chance of someone recording this? Pleeeease


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PokerTracker custom stats: Why can't they be cached? It takes ages for them to load in my HUD, which is one of the reasons I've switched to HEM recently.

Also: It would be great to have all stats in 3bet pot and single raised pot as an option.

And a question: How is the Standard Deviation calculated?


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Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010
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Can you explain All-In EV and why it's negative in every graph I see?


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im looking for the "bet when checked to" stat. How do I find it?


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fruktpuff
Joined: 24.09.2010
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Here's one we'd love answered:

Why PokerTracker over HEM?


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Colouring of stats could be helpful, which ranges etc...


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ThatGuyMatt
Joined: 03.12.2010
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If anyones having trouble watching the Coaching, you need to load up our news piece located on our Home Page - the top news piece.


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Stu24023
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Will your weds coaching be recorded on Twitch? As i will not be able to make the live one?

If so where will it be kept?

Stu


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bennisboy
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Originally posted by Stu24023
Will your weds coaching be recorded on Twitch? As i will not be able to make the live one?

If so where will it be kept?

Stu

Twitch username:
Pokerstrategyen


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gxtwo
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Originally posted by bennisboy

Originally posted by Stu24023
Will your weds coaching be recorded on Twitch? As i will not be able to make the live one?

If so where will it be kept?

Stu

Twitch username:
Pokerstrategyen

What's this twitch stuff? Can someone explain?


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