What do you think of boku? 10k in 14 days? Theoretically, if I could reach his level, I could make the same amount let's say, less in a month, right?
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Originally posted by Avatars91
What do you think of boku? 10k in 14 days? Theoretically, if I could reach his level, I could make the same amount let's say, less in a month, right?
Err, I guess he 50-tabled day and night... 10k a month is a lot, just focus on improving your game instead on the money ;).
forget it, get out, get a life, it builds you as a person, playing 10 hours a day is a waste of life, and in the hypothetic case you would get very rich (very little %), who youre gonna tell it and share with? your forum friends? those you talked to on the internet, and you dont even know their faces? be real, play poker as a job or hobby, but combine it with your real life
Originally posted by Avatars91
What do you think of boku? 10k in 14 days? Theoretically, if I could reach his level, I could make the same amount let's say, less in a month, right?
Ummm, do you play any sports?? Like baseball, tennis, basketball etc??? If so, have you ever though that Kobi, Tiger, A-Rod, Federer etc make tons of cash doing with what they are doing...then thought if you could reach thier level that you could make the same or slightly less in a month??
There is really no difference between those guys for thier sport and the guys at the top of poker. Even Boku, who in the world of sports would probably equate to a pretty decent golfer(not a super star) but has a special talent like having a the ability to win long drive competitions at golf without any effort.
So even dream all you want of doing what boku and tiger woods can do.....but remember to bring our head back down to reality and know that without a TON of hard work plus some awesome nature talent that you have a small chance of being the same as them. Which is just a simple reality.
Fuzzy....anything that a person does proficiently for an extended period of time without actually enjoying it will eventually become boring, but if you enjoy it you will always find new ways to inject interest and fun back into it. The only desensitization that might go on is the fact that it is a necessary evil in order to retain a calm mental state in order to keep playing optimally. It is not like most athletic sports where you WANT to have adrenaline pumping through your body so the physical aspect can be enhanced....you want to curb that adrenaline so that our brain functions are not impaired.
When you get to a Million hands, post on here and let us know if you are still excited to play....
Originally posted by Primzi
Also your social status won't exectly be high as a poker pro and a job has pretty much no downswings but rather a steady, secure way of income :).Primzi
Ehm, not excactly high? Dont know about that. Compared to what? Being a successful poker player takes BRAINS and dedication, right? Very few people have what it takes. So why shouldnt poker pros respected in the society. To me a poker pro is on a much higher social rank than all kinds of "regular" occupations, say middle managers, goverment officials, teachers etc? Anybody agree? (Not aiming to discredit the above mentioned)
Originally posted by fuzzyfish
Ehm, not excactly high? Dont know about that. Compared to what? Being a successful poker player takes BRAINS and dedication, right? Very few people have what it takes. So why shouldnt poker pros respected in the society. To me a poker pro is on a much higher social rank than all kinds of "regular" occupations, say middle managers, goverment officials, teachers etc? Anybody agree? (Not aiming to discredit the above mentioned)
It's only my social rank that's holding me back from becoming a better poker player.
Originally posted by fuzzyfish
Ehm, not excactly high? Dont know about that. Compared to what? Being a successful poker player takes BRAINS and dedication, right? Very few people have what it takes. So why shouldnt poker pros respected in the society. To me a poker pro is on a much higher social rank than all kinds of "regular" occupations, say middle managers, goverment officials, teachers etc? Anybody agree? (Not aiming to discredit the above mentioned)
Every time I tell people I make money playing poker I get the same skeptical looks and the "yeah but how much have you lost?" type comments. To you it has a high rank, but you're a poker player.
The other day I went to a cash game with some (nice) people I met at a tourney and when I told mum she asked if I worried they'd steal my wallet or something when i wasn't looking, and she's pretty open minded about my poker
there is such an awful stigma around poker players in society - to almost all of the rest of the world, poker players are just degenerate gamblers. saying that poker players have anywhere close to a high social rank is pretty laughable.
OK, this is pretty shocking. In the country I live poker is widely considered as sports game. Sports magazines write about poker tournaments etc.
So being a poker player is pretty much like being a chess player. Whats the social status of a chess player - a gambler, a degenerant. ♠. Dunno guys, maybe its just different in other places.
To me it seems all professional poker players are ignored by anyone other than poker players, and anyone that knows you play poker a lot sees you as some degen gambler 
Even my friends do and it's a nightmare, always say sarcastically that "I'll be rich when I win my poker tournament", despite me never having said that This all comes from when my mate rang me up wanting me to go and pick him up from somewhere and I said I couldn't because I was in the middle of a tournament.
/rant.
Well its true that poker players have a shitty status in society but i think it will change in the next years. The situation is definitely getting better.
But yeah first thing you need to make money out of poker is to love the game. And i don't see whats wrong doing that for 8 hours a day if you do it for a living, considering that any job you're gonna get nowadays you will be working 8hours+ anyway.
And yeah there are bad things about poker, mostly you have to be able to handle the swings. And you shouldn't get into it professionally until you've been playing it for at least a year or two and made money already. And also have some money saved up to pay for you're living expenses for at least 6 months in case things go bad.
But there's also a lot of good things about doing it for a living. First you've got no boss that's bitching to you every day. You can work whenever, wherever. You don't have to beg for a day off.
But in the end you still have to enjoy the game, else there is no point in even trying it. Imo you're way to money oriented and focused on getting rich, and that definitely isn't easy and it takes a lot of time and hard work. But you can be sure if u put in the hours you can make 2-3k a month grinding NL100 which is pretty beatable and there's still many fish to be had.
Originally posted by Avatars91
I already am playing or studying poker 10+ hours a day, I am really getting tired and am unhappy doing this
My guess is that it would be much simpler to just get a job, work 10 hours a day being tired and unhappy, and then put your paycheck into a nice index fund.
For 90% of people that will be a better long-term gain than putting in the number of hours required to make a living at poker.
very good players can make $500+ per hour imo. (i wouldn't count people like boku as very good players)
you can be pretty bad/untalented and make $50/hour no problem imo
Originally posted by fuzzyfish
OK, this is pretty shocking. In the country I live poker is widely considered as sports game. Sports magazines write about poker tournaments etc.So being a poker player is pretty much like being a chess player. Whats the social status of a chess player - a gambler, a degenerant. ♠. Dunno guys, maybe its just different in other places.
seriously? in which country do you live?
Originally posted by Kruppe
very good players can make $500+ per hour imo. (i wouldn't count people like boku as very good players)you can be pretty bad/untalented and make $50/hour no problem imo
Where can I play badly and earn $50/hour? I am perfectly capable of playing badly and would love to earn $50 per hour 
Originally posted by Wurble
Originally posted by Kruppe
very good players can make $500+ per hour imo. (i wouldn't count people like boku as very good players)you can be pretty bad/untalented and make $50/hour no problem imo
Where can I play badly and earn $50/hour? I am perfectly capable of playing badly and would love to earn $50 per hour
At your local casino 
Making 3bbs/100 hands on NL200 playing 4 tables on 6-max cash game (with avg of 70 hands/hour in one table), that's $16.8/hour. Not bad, but 3bbs/100 at NL200 and 4 tables is pretty hard I think lol
And about poker status, if I tell someone I'm winning money playing poker they get pretty amazed and jealous, probably because it's the young generation 
Originally posted by Tosh5457
Making 3bbs/100 hands on NL200 playing 4 tables on 6-max cash game (with avg of 70 hands/hour in one table), that's $16.8/hour. Not bad, but 3bbs/100 at NL200 and 4 tables is pretty hard I think lolAnd about poker status, if I tell someone I'm winning money playing poker they get pretty amazed and jealous, probably because it's the young generation
Well you just have to play more tables. I mean you don't have to be like boku playing 24 tables or w/e but playing 12 tables is pretty much doable. Then you play about 1k hands per hour and if you run with 3bb/100 hands thats 50$ per hour. If you take that as a job you'll be making around 400$ a day.
Thats not even considering the rake back which is pretty high if you grind those limits. In most countries you can live of rakeback alone.
seriously? in which country do you live?
I live in Estonia and there's a kind of poker-rush going on here right now. Especially among younger generation.
And before anybody asks - Estonia is in Europe, below Finland. Finland is in Northen Europe, East from Scandinavia (the thing that looks like a jumping dog). Europe is located North to the Africa (thats where the elephants and tigers and African-Africans live) and West to the Russia (thats the big red thing on youre map whith too many tanks). In case there are readers who are still kinda puzzled - above mentioned countries and continents are all located on a big pile of earth (usually green and yellow on you're map) that is on the opposite side of the Earth from the States. (Do not mix up with Australia, Australia is the little one below that has kangaroos and other cool stuff).
Maybe that's common for all Baltic countries. Poker is starting to be recognized as sports here too in Lithuania. We have some articles in the newspapers occasionally in the sports section.