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Hawat
Joined: 15.02.2008

Hi. I'm not doing very well at SH. After >16000 hands I'm at 1.16BB/100, while I have 5.90BB/100 in 9500 FR hands during the same period (don't worry, I know it's just a big upswing, plenty of KK , but it's still too better than SH). I'm not (slighty) worried because the rate it's low but because it's not getting better. I don't feel that I'm improving.

So, I'm trying to post more SH hands. Two of my biggest leaks are a WTS usually >40 and the river play, so please pay special attention to that. But I think that I'm still not comfortable with the hu play in general.

Please excuse me if I post some really simple boring hands but I find SH a lot less forgiving than FR (more blinds paid, smaller big pots), so every single detail matters.

Let's start with an easy one. It's about the river. Too weak? Did I get too scared from the donk?

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$42.13:08/50 /0 /3.0/50 /0 /-/50 ;Hero$66.15:///////;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with Q♣, J♥
MP3 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: (5.00 SB) T♣, 6♣, Q♦ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J♣ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 3♦ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB


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Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

I raise this river again, the 3 cannot have given him a better hand then yours so you need to raise for value. He would have 3-bet his flush on the turn, so I don't think you have to be scared of the flush.


Hi Hawat,

I'm not doing well in these situations as well, so I answer your questions just to test myself. I'm really interested in "good" answers, how they correlate with mines.

In this situation:
I don't think that the 3 :diamond: could help him. 33 would fold after the turn raise and a flush would 3bet the turn.
I put him on a smaller two pair, like Q3.


Hawat Topic starter
Hawat
Joined: 15.02.2008

Thanks.

I don't fear the 3 here. I'm not sure why but I tend to fear slowplays (really stupid slowplay in this case) when I'm donked or c/r'ed in situations like this. Maybe it's because I think that I have a too aggressive image that makes my opponents to let me bet.

But I realize that if he has a good hand he doesn't have to fear the 3 makes me check the river, so he doesn't need to donk.


Every winrate above 1BB is good. Don't worry about that yet as any session will influence you winrate.

Often donkbets aren't so much strength. Especially if no draw arrived. They just fear that you might check behind and they would lose 1BB with their toppair so they donk again as the river is a blank.
A flush is really very unlikely her so a raise on the river is a must.


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