[Closed] 1/2 Sh - Tt

Against this guy I call down. Very few hands, but he seems to be quite agressive and he will raise any 6 or 5 here aswell.

ok but lets say he's unknown. still a calldown?

Basically ye

Openlimp --> fish, a 5 or a 6 could be in his range.

I do not agree with your jugement.

We are OOP and have a relatively weak hand which can easily be outdrawn. The board does allow gut-shots, oesds or combinations of low pairs with gut-shots and/or backdoors, we do not want to give any freecard opportunity.

Easy 3bet flop and bet turn, if he raises you again on the turn it gets quite tricky, I would fold this turn to a raise.

I agree with Yoghi. The board is not very drawheavy so you can let him bluff at you.
On this limit you don't see that many raises with draws as I remember so this speaks again for a calldown.

I still do not agree ♦

As far as I can remember the way aggressive, but not yet that experienced players play their lowpairs in position on these limits: raise the flop instead of the turn, bet the turn and check behind river, but they almost always call down if you 3bet the flop.

[EDIT: remember that we are still 3handed on the flop when it gets to villiain, so a bluff is not very likely in this spot]

IMO we are losing way to much value by just c/calling all the way here.

I still vote for 3bet flop, bet/fold this turn, bet/fold the river.

Hmm on the other hand many opponents don't raise 2nd or 3rd pair because they are weak. Call flop, raise turn with strong hands is no standard line with strong hands for non TAGs.
If it's a draw he might cap the flop and we fold the best hand on the turn. I really don't fear a freecard here that much.
Well maybe that's a question of the style each one plays.

The only hand that we should be afraid of is 87s, I don't think there are a lot other hands that he openlimps UTG with that have lots of outs against us.

He won't openlimp hands like AJ, AK which have 6 outs against us.

Originally posted by Yoghi
The only hand that we should be afraid of is 87s, I don't think there are a lot other hands that he openlimps UTG with that have lots of outs against us.

He won't openlimp hands like AJ, AK which have 6 outs against us.

This is true, but I mostly 3bet here because I think this is the way to get the most out of a 5 and a 6.

IMO we are in front often enough to make this play a good one.

On the other hand we do fold the best hand if he caps with a draw and bets the turn again...

Originally posted by superstar84
I still do not agree ♦

As far as I can remember the way aggressive, but not yet that experienced players play their lowpairs in position on these limits: raise the flop instead of the turn, bet the turn and check behind river, but they almost always call down if you 3bet the flop.

[EDIT: remember that we are still 3handed on the flop when it gets to villiain, so a bluff is not very likely in this spot]

IMO we are losing way to much value by just c/calling all the way here.

I still vote for 3bet flop, bet/fold this turn, bet/fold the river.

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Seriously though superstar it's better to let him bluff into you with his pp/2nd/3rd pair because vs the "LAG" fish who are bad lags and are too aggressive, if you play risky max value lines then those fish can raise the turn cause they're bad/want to be tricky and thus rape your face with exploitation!
Imo this limit is too low to be trying to extract such value from a second pair.