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[Closed] 3 Hands 2/4 shorthanded

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1)
villainis TAG
Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em (6 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8♠, A♦.
3 folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 5♠, T♠, 5♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: (4.00 BB) 7♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.00 BB) J♣ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 6.00 BB.

2)
villain is a maniac
Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em (6 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♦, A♣.
1 folds, CO calls, 1 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 7♥, 9♣, 8♣ (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.00 BB) 5♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.00 BB) A♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.00 BB.

3)
villain is LAG
Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em (5 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♥, J♣.
2 folds, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 9♣, 5♥, J♦ (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6♣ (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button folds.

River: (6.50 BB) Q♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB.

Lost a valuebet there. My question is, if he had raised after my (missing) bet, should I call?


8 replies
eplc
Joined: 22.01.2005

1) Isn't this standard bet flop/ bet turn? I think you shouldn't be that afraid of a c/r.

2) Imho good.

3) I'd call a raise, there are many LAGs on 2/4 SH who play c/c flop and turn to raise the river when they hit on the flop. But this might be just a personal impression.


Original von eplc
1) Isn't this standard bet flop/ bet turn? I think you shouldn't be that afraid of a c/r.

I should be _very_ afraid of a check/raise imo because: what the fuck is he calling the flop with? I don't wanna fold my Ace against this guy and I want the showdown as cheap as possible to catch his bluff if he makes one.
Keep in mind that check behind turn call river costs the same as bet turn, check/fold river with the one significant difference that I get a showdown for sure in the first case...


Also: if he is on a flushdraw, my bet on the turn won't get him to fold, so I don't see any value in it.


eplc
Joined: 22.01.2005

What makes you so sure that he's on a draw? And with what he is calling, I think the question is what does he fold here? There are few players folden their hand on such a flop... I'd play that as standard bet flop, bet turn.


Original von eplc
There are few players folden their hand on such a flop...

A paired, twosuited flop with one card at the low end of the playingzone?
I don't think so.


eplc
Joined: 22.01.2005

Original von Wiseguy

Original von eplc
There are few players folding their hand on such a flop...

A paired, twosuited flop with one card at the low end of the playingzone?
I don't think so.

They don't believe you that you could hit a T or 5, that's it. You'll be called by every Ace high, backdoor flush draw, etc. You should give villain the chance to fold on the turn. Well, what can I say, I think so :).


Hmmm... Gotta think about this for a few days. :)


even if he is on a flush draw and he has the odds to call on the turn it is good for you, to bet. This way you pay 1 BB to earn 1,61 BB(flushdraw is 4 to 1 against hitting, as you know AND you have one of his outs).