[Closed] 4 hands 2/4 Full Ring

I really have a problem with Hand 3).
I think I have played it awful. The 3-Bet preflop is _very_ debatable. If he's got overcards (AQ seems very fitting here), I've got equity. But I dont' know that and that raise of him is no stealraise, since MP3 has called already.
I didn't see that before 3-betting, otherwise I would have just called.

On the other hand, my 3-Bet isolated him, because MP3 confronted with two more bets now folds, which is great for me.

The Flop is probably not helping him since he didn't cap me preflop which would have been an indication for a big pocket pair. That raise of him has nothing to say about his holding - he could have anything with that action and an aggression factor of eight. So I 3-bet to see where I stand, planning to fold the Turn unimproved against a cap.

Turn: with his agression and his trickyness I was fearing a checkraise which would force me to fold. But that check behind is awful in my opinion, because It helps him more than me considering that he is still drawing to 6 outs.

River: Here I'm hoping he bluffs me with Ace high. He doesn't so I have to bet, hoping he will call with Ace high, which may not be the best play at all...

In my opinion the correct play (if I were only against SB) for that particular hand would be:
call preflop, check/raise Flop (fold against 3-Bet), bet Turn, bet River

What do you think?

1) good
2) ok
3) Bet Turn, hoping he folds his overcards. Call down to a check/raise would be my line.
4) fold preflop

3) tricky hand vs a tricky villain

to begin with let's start with some basic blind defence:
the SB is a tricky TAG so he attents to steal the blinds with hands like 67s T9o and other crap hands like those. so a 3bet with a PP like 77 is mandatory.

the flop isn't too bad for u and uhave to bad after his check. if he is really a good and aggressive player he can check raise you with any hand. he might have a T or an bigger PP but most likely he has Ace high, a 6 or any other crap hand. u can expel him from having a bigger PP because he would have capped preflop then. so after the check raise i would 3bet and call down if he caps.

on the turn a blank appeared and u don't really have to fear that the 4 helped him so bet again! u can check behind if an Ace appeares.

and with the 2 on the river it is even a value bet for me so let's hope he calls u with A high

1) good

2) I cant believe that all villains are TAGs when they make teses flat calls preflop here.

anywaythis hand is gay, the fold on the turn is debatable, because U have pot odds to draw to ur 2 outs, but button can raise, if he has his set so fold turn is ok.

3) I think this 7,5% PFR SB is not the right opponent for thin isolation 3 bets preflop. call the preflop raise und play fit or fold on the flop!

4) vs 3 villains u can check fold, if there are calling stations behind. if there are only 3 opponents und 2 have checked to u, u can bet this flop!

I think I agree with Hotte to that degree that it's not time for fance play here. But I also think you misinterpreted the raise from SB preflop. That was NO blindsteal, because MP3 _is already in the hand_. So this seems like a legitimate raise oop, which makes it even stronger. Considering the low range for his raise under those circumstances, I think folding would not be a bad play...

oh lol i didn't see mp3 ^^

Original von Wiseguy
I think I agree with Hotte to that degree that it's not time for fance play here. But I also think you misinterpreted the raise from SB preflop. That was NO blindsteal, because MP3 _is already in the hand_. So this seems like a legitimate raise oop, which makes it even stronger. Considering the low range for his raise under those circumstances, I think folding would not be a bad play...

wisyboy what are u writing?;)

u have 77 in the BB. pocket pairs are not foldet in the BB. u have a no brainer 6:1 call hier!;)

Original von OnkelHotte
u have 77 in the BB. pocket pairs are not foldet in the BB. u have a no brainer 6:1 call hier!;)

Guess I didn't remember the chart correctly. One more question: do you call 66 and less in the BB against a raise from the button, when the SB folds?

Original von Wiseguy

Original von OnkelHotte
u have 77 in the BB. pocket pairs are not foldet in the BB. u have a no brainer 6:1 call hier!;)

Guess I didn't remember the chart correctly. One more question: do you call 66 and less in the BB against a raise from the button, when the SB folds?

Imho it's a 3-bet.

Original von Wiseguy

Original von OnkelHotte
u have 77 in the BB. pocket pairs are not foldet in the BB. u have a no brainer 6:1 call hier!;)

Guess I didn't remember the chart correctly. One more question: do you call 66 and less in the BB against a raise from the button, when the SB folds?

hehe wisey, after ur midpair desaster I'll plug another leak in ur play now:

NEVER fold any pocket pair in the BB for 1 more bet:)

66 vs standard button steal is easy 3 bet!