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akasoul
Joined: 17.06.2007

Hi,

Not sure if this hand is a standar one or a tough one.

MP was playing loose pasive, very passive.

After the c/r on the turn I could only see a fold when playing the hand but I'm not that sure, I mean there are some draws.

And I'm not sure about the bet on the turn, maybe a check behind and a call could be better?? to induce on draws and overcards???

or was it a standard value bet on the turn???

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 8
MP raises, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, MP calls

Flop: (7.4 SB) 3 Q 2 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP calls

Turn: (4.7 BB) 9 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP raises, Hero folds


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it is always thought if u get c/r turn by passive player, but without any information i'd call it down. Its hard to induce from passive players, especially when so many draws on board, giving freecard is really bad because(lika a gazylion draws) and when he bets blank river u still dont know where you at.
So if he did it first time i'd call it down and make note.


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madorjan
Joined: 13.11.2009

First off, the turn bet is superstandard, if he's loose on turn peels and calldowns (which is usually the case with passive players), you have tremendous amount of value here. Thinking it's not a mandatory bet is completely results-oriented IMO.

As played I probably call down the raise. He may very well have slowplays in his range, and if you have the read he's rarely to never bluffing, you could make a super-tight fold, but the turn actually gave him a lot of draws, combodraws even, so I wouldn't feel bad about calling down. Also there always is the "random factor", where passive players go mad with hands just for shitz and gigglez.


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firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

Turnbet is standard, followed by another riverbet on a blank. It depends on whether you think he's also just playing passively with Qx and monsterhands like KK or so. Against an unknown i'm going to see the showdown but if you had a read on passive, use the read and be consequent and just lay down your hand.


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