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ListenAces
Joined: 12.03.2013

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.04 Limit Hold'em - 10 players
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with J :club: K :club:
3 folds, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, 4 folds, Hero calls

Flop: (6.5 SB) 9 :club: 7 :heart: 3 :spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls

Turn: (4.75 BB) 9 :heart: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, Hero folds

Should I have folded on the flop or is seeing the turn with overcards ok?


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Originally posted by ListenAces
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.04 Limit Hold'em - 10 players
Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with J :club: K :club:
3 folds, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, 4 folds, Hero calls

Flop: (6.5 SB) 9 :club: 7 :heart: 3 :spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls

Turn: (4.75 BB) 9 :heart: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, Hero folds

Should I have folded on the flop or is seeing the turn with overcards ok?

totally cool the flop call: you have OCs, a BDFD and a BD gutshot


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ListenAces
Joined: 12.03.2013

I see.
But I never really understood Backdoor stuff.
How many extra outs can I give myself with that? _confused:


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cjheigl
Joined: 09.04.2006

Outs for backdoor draws are covered in the article Mathematics: Odds & Outs for Advanced Players (silver) which you can't read yet. They improve your draws a little bit. There are some subtleties, so the number of outs for backdoor draws range from 0.5 to 2 outs. In this hand your backdoor flush draw is a good backdoor draw because a lot of cards can improve it on the turn to a strong draw. The backdoor straight draw is considerably weaker because no card can help you to an open ended straight draw. On the whole the backdoor draws should account for another 2 outs. You have pot odds of 8.5:1, so you need close to 5 outs to call. Your overcards count for 3 outs at least. Add 2 outs for the backdoor draws and you are fine.


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ListenAces
Joined: 12.03.2013

Ah okay I will relegate that to advanced and keep my focus on what I'm practicing now then.


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