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circe
Joined: 18.03.2005

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is CO with K♣ K♥
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls

Flop: (4.5 SB) J♠ 9♥ Q♣ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls

Turn: (3.25 BB) 6♥ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls

River: (9.25 BB) J♥ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls


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Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

Raise the flop, you have almost no peeling range on this board and can get excess action from his donking range.

When he 3-bets the turn it sucks for you but he can easily be doning it with worse for value and we have outs vs 2 pair hands and even sets.

River's not great but not bad enough I'm going to fold either.


TerrorBlade
Joined: 16.10.2007

What is your specific question here? I think just posting the hand without giving us your thinking on the trouble street(s) is not taking full advantage of the judges.

Tell us where you're shaky and what other moves you were considering/the thought behind them because we need to know if you were considering a river fold, or a turn fold etc., so we can address the thinking that got you there in the first place.

As played against unknown I'm calling the turn with plenty of outs against 2p + still could be ahead against Qx if he's an agrofish and you also have a gutshot!

River is a turbocall given you sucked out on Q9/Q6/96

P.S. Get a stats program or start writing notes on opponents


circe
Joined: 18.03.2005

Hi,

thank you very much for your feedback.

I considered to play call flop raise turn.

Why do you think that raising the flop is a better line here?

With kind regards.

Christian


Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

Calling the flop and raising the turn is usually only the superior line when:

1) Your opponent will always fire the turn

2) You have a balanced range between peels draws and strong hands you can raise on the turn (otherwise you're 1-way polarized and easy to play against)

3) Your opponent won't give you excess action on the flop and allow you to raise the turn anyway.

This board is not condusive to either 2) or 3)

You don't have a wide peeling range on this flop, you're going to have to fold a lot of A-High style hands and maybe even small pairs so you've not got much to just peel with. These types of boards, High Card and Rainbow, are generally not good ones to wait one becasue it's almost impossible not to be 1-way polarized to value hands when you raise the turn becasue you just don't have enough bluffs without real spew. If the board was low and co-ordinated then i live it better because you can add flush/straight draws to your range and also have some just straight up overcard peels so your opponent can't read you well on the turn.

Additionally if your opponent is betting here you may get excess action allowing you to call his 3-bet and raise the turn anyway should it come favourable for you. These are all things you need to consider when making a decision to put in action now or later.

As a rule I think that a lot of players these days wait until teh turn far too much, or with totally unbalanced ranges and that it hyper-easy for a decent player to exploit.