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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Preflop: Hero is CO with T K
UTG folds, MP raises, Hero 3-bets, BTN caps, 2 folds, MP calls, Hero calls

Flop: (13.5 SB) J 7 7 (3 players)
MP bets, Hero raises, BTN calls, MP 3-bets, Hero calls, BTN calls

Turn: (11.3 BB) 8 (3 players)
MP bets, Hero raises, BTN folds, MP calls

River: (15.3 BB) 5 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP calls

Results: 17.3 BB pot (0.4 BB rake)
Final Board: J 7 7 8 5
Hero showed T K

MP: 46/22/29/ 54 hands
BTN: 49/34/16/ 154 hands


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Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Spew preflop,not rly tragic but certainly not something you should do regularly.

Flop I wouldnt raise since now you are obviously dealing with very very strong ranges. BUs cap is close to premium and MP donks this board so I think its mostly a pair...not much FE there. His 3bet is overpair.

Turn, river standard.


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Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

I think 3-betting KTs vs a HJ open is totally standard in this spot.

Flop is really the only interesting decision and given the narrow ranges involved I don't actually hate it since KTs is probably the worst hand in your range at this point so when you flop a FD with it a bluff is pretty much a necessity unless you want a 100% value range for your raising range on the flop. (Which unless you know hat donk = monster you don't)

Rest of Hand is standard


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Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

hmmm, standard,u sure? Ive never been raising this as a standard vs MP3. Equity wise its a clear looser,domination big factor and imo no need to it with. KJs is borderline for me but even that not vs everyone.


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Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

It's probably not 100% standard but equity-wise it's fine (47% vs standard HJ open w/ dead blind money) and not all hand dominating you can do anything about it if you both miss. Plus suited so can continue when it gts heat etc

Also HJ here is coming in at 46/22/25 so I'm willing to 3-bet a tad wider than standard

KTo is a fold for sure but I don't mind 3-betting KTs here for sure


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

to me KTs was a clear 3bet vs such a donk/maniac as that guy was.. i was very surprised you dawn would not do it.. I only found it standard to 3bet vs that guy..


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Same preflop question, but we are in the SB instead?

/Johan = ?(


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Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

Originally posted by YohanN7
Same preflop question, but we are in the SB instead?

/Johan = ?(

Probably even more of a 3-bet then because there are less players behind to interfere and we're getting a minor discount on our 3-bet.

Sucks being OOP but the discount and higher likelihood of getting through means I'd still 3-bet especailly vs this guy.

Just realise if you miss it's the bottom of your range

If it comes raise, 3-bet to us in SB...fold

If it comes raise, cold call. Probably over-cold call


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Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Looking at stats they dont seem overly maniacal to me. In fact they can easily be the ones of a decent LAG or even TAG. Looking at his PFR in perticular it is quite low for that matter,at least lower to mine...therefore I dont see any reason why his MP OR range should be anywider than mine(in fact its more logical to assume the oposite)

Equity Win Tie
MP3 56.25% 53.74% 2.51% 44+, A5s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, A9o+, KTo+, QJo
BU 43.75% 41.25% 2.51% KTs

this would be something which I would assume...not that close to 47%

I still dont agree this is an easy 3bet and I would not make it as a standard thing.If oponent is a good player I dont rly see any reason to do it. For this guy after 54 hands I cant deny that.


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Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

Your HJ range is tighter than the one I used. It's sub 20%, only KTo and a couple of SCs above the SHC

And critically many dominated hands (QTo and K9o aren't) are in there which is how I got to 47%

Put it this way, I'm looking for a reason not to 3-bet rather than a reason to 3-bet here


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