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Stingray31
Joined: 02.02.2006

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, Q.
3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 8, 5, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Bet River?

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4, A. MP2 posts a blind of $0.50. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) checks, CO (poster) raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) A, 5, 9 (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

Turn: (7 BB) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (7 BB) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets, CO folds.

is the Preflop call correct?

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 8, 9, K (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 4 (3 players)
BB bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls, BB 3-bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (17.25 BB) Q (3 players)
BB bets $0.25 (All-In), MP2 raises, Hero calls.

to many action to see the showdown?


7 replies

1) No the hand is fine. A lot of A-high hands would still call the river with this board so i don't think a bet is useful here also your opponent will call down every pocketpair.

2) its a fold according to the SHC.

3) raise the flop. When you have a made hand against 2 opponents on the flop try to confront one person with 2 bets.
But always watch out not to be part of a raising war with a TPTK hand. Often this hand is already beaten in Full Ring games in such situations.


Stingray31
Joined: 02.02.2006

ok thx, but one question about 2nd example:

If so many people are in the hand, is it not worth to play for the flush?


No, the probability for a Backdoor Flush (you actually need 2 more diamonds) is too low (I think about 2%) :)


He wants to know if he can call preflop.
Actualy lets assume that 3 more people will call, you will approximatly get 1to7pot odds.

For any suited cards you need about 1 to 6.5.
So you could call with implied odds.


Stingray31
Joined: 02.02.2006

ok thats what i want to know, 1 to 7 for a cold call, thx very much


Originally posted by Stingray31
ok thats what i want to know, 1 to 7 for a cold call, thx very much

You get 1 to 7 here.

For suited connectors you need 1 to 6.5

But beware i am not so happy about such a situation.

You never know if everybody calls/folds or perhaps also raises after you call the raise. Often people limp in in early position with their Pocket Rockets Kings or hands like this and will 3bet them after they get action.

What will you do with this hand when you hit the Ace?
Often your Ace is dominated because you have such a bad kicker.

The best hands to play in such large pots are suited connectors.


DasWiesel
Joined: 30.06.2005

In hand #2 i would check/raise the CO on the flop.
You have some chance to be best and the pot is huge, so you need to protect your hand.