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[Closed] second pair

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nemiren
Joined: 28.09.2009

Known players:
[tg]Position:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB:55/42/15/2.3/24/22/100/67;[/tg]
0.1/0.2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.90 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8♥, 8♣
Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) J♦, 4♣, 3♣ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.25 BB) 5♣ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: 4.25 BB

ihad a read that my opponent plays draws very aggressively,despite being oop and without ini. i raised flop for protection, but i am not sure about my play..


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Epitaph
Joined: 29.07.2006

knowing that he plays draws agressively, i like the flopraise. the turn is really ugly tho. i still like bet/fold turn because he also donks any 4x, 3x, Ax hands that he still might call on the turn, also, you got a 8-high fd and you get the free sd quite often when he just calls your turnbet.


Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

First off, you're not protecting yourself vs a draw. What you're doing is actually bloating the pot when the draw has good equity and preserving his implied odds for him.

The Idea of "Charging A Draw" is a bit of a misconception.

What really happens when you raise vs a draw is that you win less money than if he'd fired every street as a bluff and you lose more money if he hits his draw.

Not saying that it's always correct to induce vs a potentailly bluff heavy range becasue people don't always fire 3 barrells but just be very careful about "Raising to protect/charge vs a draw"

Once you raise the flop I think you hve to bet the turn He may just have a straight draw, now have picked up a pair and think about showing down, he's not always going to have a FD, sometimes he'll have a 4 or 5 too.

River we have the worst possible flush, we still beat the straights draw which will now have 2 pair but it's probably a decent fold as he may check those back, but then again our hand is seriously underrepped so it may be asituation where we have to pay off against what could be a thinner value range but the pot is probably too small.