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How to play the flop? Poll is created on Nov 16, 2007

Passiv: Donk bet.

Passiv: Check.

Aggressive: Donk bet.

Aggressive: Check.

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_Anonymous_

16.11.2007, 19:02 0

How do you play this hand on the flop? To make it a bit more difficult the vote differentiates between an aggressive and passive opponent and between a donkbet and a check to see what happens behind us.

Have fun.

0,10/0,20 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A♠, 9♠
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13,50 SB) 4♠, A♦, 3♠ (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero ???

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_Anonymous_

27.11.2007, 20:18 0

Donk to give CO the ability to raise and this way we can maybe buy some outs and protect our hand. We also have enough pot equity to get raised right?

_Anonymous_

05.12.2007, 13:16 0

If he is passive a donkbet will be only raised by a better hand most of the time so a check and often a simple calldown if the best against a passive opponent. An aggressive opponent might raise worse hands as well and so he can protect our hand. So against an aggressive opponent a donkbet is better here.

Benido

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13.12.2007, 15:05 0

but checking with the intention to raise after a bet (cause an aggressive villain is most likely to contibet ANY a hi flop) is no option? easy check/raise 4 value if just one of the 2 UTG guys calls...

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_Anonymous_

14.12.2007, 10:51 0

Originally posted by Benido
but checking with the intention to raise after a bet (cause an aggressive villain is most likely to contibet ANY a hi flop) is no option? easy check/raise 4 value if just one of the 2 UTG guys calls...

comments?

Against an aggressive opponent I see the chance of isolating him and so protecting our hand as more important than a pure value play.
Shouldn't be a big different with our flushdraw here anyway.

_Anonymous_

05.02.2009, 18:11 0

I'd donk it either way, because preflop it was 3bet and I have a very strong hand that wins more than it's fair share.

_Anonymous_

05.02.2009, 22:17 0

Wow that's an old thread and the funny thing i s I don't agree with my own judgment anymore.

Seems like the game changed a bit as I like to donkbet into a passive to not let him take a freecard and be called by a worse pocketpair. We have enough outs if he raises as well.
The problem with the passive line is that a calldown unimproved is tough as it's unlikely that he will bet all streets wit a worse hand.

Against the aggressive I like donk/calldown and check/raise (as Benido mentioned). Could be too aggressive as it's FR.

_Anonymous_

05.02.2009, 22:35 0

Originally posted by ciRith
We have enough outs if he raises as well.
The problem with the passive line is that a calldown unimproved is tough as it's unlikely that he will bet all streets wit a worse hand.

Against the aggressive I like donk/calldown and check/raise (as Benido mentioned). Could be too aggressive as it's FR.

Why are you talking, like it's a heads-up situation ?

(+ It's microlimits so one should not worry about getting enough implied odds.. xD)

_Anonymous_

06.02.2009, 02:17 0

Where am I talking about HU?
I'm neither talking about implied odds.
I think you got me wrong.
He 3-bet a MP1 raise which is very strong. A passive opponant has TT+ or a better ace then we have. An aggressive opponent is still no maniac.