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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Hi!

Post flop villain min raise i should had to just call or always push my strong draw here against short stack?

Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €1.97 EUR ) - VPIP: 35, PFR: 16, 3B: 0, AF: 2,8, Hands: 55
Seat 3: Hero ( €3.84 EUR )
Seat 5: Player5 ( €2.41 EUR ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 27, 3B: 6, AF: 2,3, Hands: 100
Seat 6: Player6 ( €0.72 EUR ) - VPIP: 57, PFR: 3, 3B: 4, AF: 2,0, Hands: 162
Seat 8: Player8 ( €0.88 EUR ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 3,0, Hands: 8
Seat 10: Player10 ( €2.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 35, PFR: 16, 3B: 0, AF: 2,8, Hands: 55
Player5 posts small blind [€0.01 EUR].
Player6 posts big blind [€0.02 EUR].

IPoker, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $2.41 (120.5 bb)
BB: $0.72 (36 bb)
UTG: $0.88 (44 bb)
MP: $2 (100 bb)
CO: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $3.84 (192 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7♠: 9♠:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, SB folds, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) 6♠: A♣: 8♠: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.09, BB raises to $0.18, Hero raises to $0.60, BB raises to $0.66 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.06

Turn: ($1.45) 2♥: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($1.45) A♦: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler

Results: $1.45 pot ($0.09 rake)
Final Board: 6♠: A♣: 8♠: 2♥: A♦:
BB showed A♥: 6♦: and won $1.36 ($0.64 net)
Hero mucked 7♠: 9♠: and lost (-$0.72 net)


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

If you do cbet the flop, which is ok (size not so much), you have to realize your equity asap playing 30 something bb effective.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

I still don't understand why only can use run in twice in ps.


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srichards
Joined: 26.11.2012

I am much tighter. I would never play 97s. However, the pleasant open ended straight draw does deserve a Flop bet to increase the pot, just in case you hit the straight. The flush draw is OK. But, you could easily lose to a stronger flush. The straight draw is potentially more powerful than the flush draw. I would call Villain's flop raise. However, open ended straight draws are not strong enough to raise All In. Just like in your other recent post, I believe players over bet open ended straight draws and flush draws. These hands are not strong enough for All In moves.


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

PF is fine, OTF bet smaller or check, I can't see a reason for a 3-b shove. It's clear that you can win only if you hit your draw, so you are about 50/50, but you can easily fold if you don't hit till the river, and you don't have any FE, so if you hit you'll win, if you don't you might have a chance not to lose the entire eff. stack.


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Pre is good and with the dead money in the pot shoving is the correct play vs this stack size imo.You dont need fold equity here although id never discount having at least some fold equity


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

shipping is +EV, but is it maximum EV?
if you don't have any fold equity obviously you shouldn't ship it, but it's always possible that villain x/minr some garbage or "inforaises" and folds to the jam. that said, i prefer a call.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

I have got little bit more than 50%, only have got 50% if villain have a set, but villain range will top pair good kicker and two pairs too. I lost two pair vs just flush draw, and this hands, and AKo vs AKo vs AQs pre flop all in. All the time i had got about 60% and lost all 3 and this happened just nl2.
97s always open with bu especially 6max. And i chance hit straight flush so i villain hold flush too i have got 2 out the flush but most of time flush will good here if i hit.

semiramiRNMD: i don't understand you, sorry another topic only AA without any draws only hope hit 2 outs you easily push all in, but 15 outs not? And villain short stack it is always +EV for me.


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

You are 50% or less vs almost any hand. Push here is of course +EV, but not max EV, you'll realise more equity if you just call. Regarding the AA hand I do not hope for 2 outs, I just think that you're ahead most of the time 80%+.

Yeah checked it:

MP2 48.81% 48.81% 0.00% 9s7s
MP3 51.19% 51.19% 0.00% Ah6d
board 6sAc8s

You have less than 50%


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

But villain not just push top two pairs, i think any 2 pairs and AK, AQ, maybe AJ push here.

And yesterday i saw the same villain who against i played my AA hand and he used overbet and if i remember he had sets. AA hands almost never have 60% or more.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

I added villain these range and i have got 50%. But villain not a super nit or rock player so maybe he push here almost any Ax or sometimes 8x.

AA,88,66,AQs+,A8s,A6s,86s,KsQs,KsJs,AQo+,A8o,A6o,86o


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