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Slooneeek
Joined: 23.09.2014

Hi

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2949762
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BTN: $5.49
SB: $6.94
BB: $11.55
Hero (UTG): $5.68
MP: $6.30
CO: $5.10

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with A :heart: A :diamond:
Hero raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, 2 folds, SB calls $0.13, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.50) J :club: 3 :heart: 7 :club: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.36, MP raises to $0.96, SB folds, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.42) 3 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.26, Hero calls $1.26

River: ($4.94) 3 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3.93, Hero calls $3.31 all in

Is it cooler situation? Opponent stats after 114 hands 14/11/67%cbet/9,3%3bet


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Well, I´m not sure about this flop, but as his 3bet stat is quite big I might call. I´d keep betting turn (not big bet) and if get again re-raised I´d fold. River - c/c. I think we shouldn´t go all in there.


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Slooneeek
Joined: 23.09.2014

What u mean keep betting turn? Im IP. You're sayin I should lead this turn and fold to a raise? I think that's a tragic play, cause he often folds his bluffs. I think that x/call is the only option...


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Originally posted by Slooneeek
What u mean keep betting turn? Im IP. You're sayin I should lead this turn and fold to a raise? I think that's a tragic play, cause he often folds his bluffs. I think that x/call is the only option...

Yes, you´re right sorry, my bad, c/c seems better. Anyway, it´s really tough (at least to me), I´m really thinking about folding flop. Well, as played I would fold the river.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would totally call flop here. Turn check call is fine. I would call OTR too. He can play some draws aggressively and you just got a full house. JJ and 77 makes only 6 combos that beat you and then there is some 3x but not so many I guess.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

It is well played. It takes a reliable read to get away on the river.


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StruxXx
Joined: 18.12.2015

This is an easy fold for me OTT.
Reg MP wont call your open from UTG with J7 and he would not overplay his QQ like this. Since he cant have top pair top kicker + FD (AJc) only possible combinations are 77 and JJ.

Easy fold OTT imo. Just fold dem Aces when you know you're behind.

Regs on NL5 dont bluff too much so that we can make a profitable call OTT / OTR (specially not 14/11!!)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

After just a bit over 100 hands we can not be sure what kind of hands villain is playing and how he plays them. I can see villain check raising with some nut flushes here, for example AcKc has overs and nut flush. Also T9s and 98s can easily be in his calling range, I have 2-5% calling range from MP vs UTG and they are in my calling range.
When turn changes nothing, it is decent barrel for villain with those kind of hands. For the same reason we should continue calling there. If we do not call turn when it doesn't change anything, maybe we should fold already OTF? But folding OTF would usually be too tight here.


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StruxXx
Joined: 18.12.2015

14/11 over 100 hands is decent enough for us to see that this guy is a NIT reg.
On the other hand, 100 hands is not enough to justify our calling just becaus he has around 10% 3bet and we dont know how he plays some of his strong draws. For that you'll need a check/raise or CBet CRaise stat to justify that. Given with the stats that we have, I'm folding my aces OTT. Would be happier to shove them OTF then just x/c OTT and x/c OTR when I know Im almost always behind. But this plan should be made OTF.
When ever you get to the point when your opponent do something that is not usual (like c/r OTF) you need to create some sort of a plan. Whats your plan when you call the C/R OTF? Call it down till the end and see his pocet 77s?

I would rather save up myself some money OTT then call it down - call me a nit but he lost this pot and he would have saved up $4,5 if he folded the turn. This guy is NOT a an agro fish!


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KingKlaas
Joined: 13.12.2008

Fold flop: set-alarm vs. nit


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Vs this nit, I m even "nitter" hahaha
I m folding this flop. See ya _thumbsup:


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muel294
Joined: 06.06.2009

Glad to see people saying fold the flop. I agree with this. Vs someone who's flat vs UTG o/r whilst he can play AJ, QQ this way I think it's mostly sets.

However, If you're confident he can flat QQ pre and would raise AJo and QQ OTF I think you could 3b and get it in:

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http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: Jc3h7c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 54.73% 54.73% 0.00% { AdAh }
MP3 45.27% 45.27% 0.00% { QQ-JJ, 77, 33, AJs, AJo }

Aggression is usually not a semi-bluff at these limits, even if it is then it is likely the NFD or a combo draw which I think is even more reason to 3b get it in:

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http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: Jc3h7c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 56.74% 56.74% 0.00% { AdAh }
MP3 43.26% 43.26% 0.00% { QQ-JJ, 77, 33, AJs, AcKc, AcQc, AcTc, Ac9c, Tc9c, Ac8c, 9c8c, Ac7c, Ac6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, AJo }

If we remove AJo from the equation then we are in bad shape IMO:

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> http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: Jc3h7c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 45.31% 45.31% 0.00% { AdAh }
MP3 54.69% 54.69% 0.00% { QQ-JJ, 77, 33, AcKc, AcQc, AcTc, Tc9c, 9c8c, Ac7c }


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

Yap, that is never a cooler.Totally agree with Afulibador. Look that is nit with capped range raises on wet board. What do you think he has? Flush draw? Nit? it is always kind of 2p+ on the flop, but what kind of 2p could he have? 73, J7? Never. It is just JJ,77. Fold the flop. It is huge raise. If he had QQ+ - he would 3b preflop. JJ could easily call vs UTG open.


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

One of the best exploit of the nits - do not pay them any extra money and steal their blinds


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Guys, we have 100 hands on villain and you are putting him on a range of 3 combos. If he is that nit he will not call even 77 pre flop.


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

Originally posted by la55iIf he is that nit he will not call even 77 pre flop.

Not sure he would not call preflop with 77. I'm total nit like that guy in this hand (17/13)
So, I most of the time do not call 22-55 vs UTG, if he is not a fish or there is not fish on the blinds .:f_biggrin:


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Hmm okay :) Since you are a nit also, do you call big suited connectors like T9s or 98s pre, and if you do would you xr some FD+gutshot hands otf?


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

I do not make first call pre with suited connectors (only vs fishes or players who have high wtsd (>=30)). Also, on the post flop I most of the time passive IP - I have good enough chances IP and rasing the low flops only 1) if I think oppoent is "thinking" and could put me on calling range 2) I have some kind of nuts (sets, 2p+) and rarely with Nutflushdraw (if i'm tilting and want to punish the annoyed opponent), mostly combo draws. I would never raise flop with NUT flush draw VS opponents who has wtsd>=30 ( I guess the reason is obvious enough who I do not do that vs that guys). Regarding this hand I could raise sometime with QQ if opponent has normal by my mind wtsd (22-27), to me it means he can fold somewhere if I would continue barrel.


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

Just one note - I could open it T9s, JTs, but not call preflop as first caller. It is mostly bcs I sit after the fish or loose reg and most of the time regulars from blinds would squeeze.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

This is a fold on flop imo. He will rarely raise semi bluffs when IP. This is a set.


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