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R2PNZ
Joined: 02.01.2017

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 47.5 BB
SB: 131.5 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (BB): 107.5 BB
UTG: 64 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 158.5 BB
CO: 126 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♦ K♣

UTG raises to 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, UTG calls 8 BB, MP calls 8 BB

Flop: (30.5 BB, 3 players) 8♦ K♥ T♦
Hero bets 22.5 BB, UTG raises to 54 BB and is all-in, MP calls 54 BB, Hero raises to 97.5 BB and is all-in, MP calls 43.5 BB

Turn: (279.5 BB, 3 players) 3♣

River: (279.5 BB, 3 players) Q♠

Spoiler

Hero shows A♦ K♣ (One Pair, Kings)

Main Pot [192.5 BB]: (Pre 53%, Flop 75%, Turn 88%)
Side Pot#1 [87 BB]: (Pre 71%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)

MP shows A♣ T♥ (One Pair, Tens)

Main Pot [192.5 BB]: (Pre 22%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [87 BB]: (Pre 29%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)

UTG shows K♠ J♦ (One Pair, Kings)

Main Pot [192.5 BB]: (Pre 25%, Flop 16%, Turn 7%)

Hero wins 269.5 BB

I couldn't find the fold button, after reviewing I think MP should show up with 88, 1010 or QJ with diamonds. Right?


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Inv1ctus83
Joined: 06.10.2013

Yeah I think after a flop raise and a call you should definitely fold.


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Inv1ctus83
Joined: 06.10.2013

After checking the spoiler that's NL2 for you I guess.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

When they both are interested in the pot then we can fold.
Write a note on these...


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I´d fold, when the second guys calls the raise. We have Ad, so they are less likely to draw for flush, which means, they have more hands, that beats us.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I'm not sure what is the best move here. MP's hand looks strong when he calls the raise, but only realistic hand that beats us is TT imo.
I think folding is fine but I don't hate shove either. TPTK with backdoor draws might be strong enough at NL2 if the population plays that kind of hands.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Too bad we don’t have any reads or stats on both players, but with a mid-stack in I would most likely Cbet smaller. This way we didn’t get committed if he shoves on us, but even then I think it’s difficult to fold with a MP that looks passive based on his play pre-flop and flop.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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R2PNZ
Joined: 02.01.2017

Originally posted by Mozzek
I´d fold, when the second guys calls the raise. We have Ad, so they are less likely to draw for flush, which means, they have more hands, that beats us.

I considered having the Ad makes it less likely he'd have a draw but like la55i said it also gives me the backdoor outs.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

In these spots one of villains usually holds set, board might pair (and this doesn´t happen so rarely as u might think). This also erases one of our outs, which is Kd. I wouldn´t really rely on backdoor flush draw there :).


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by la55i
I'm not sure what is the best move here. MP's hand looks strong when he calls the raise, but only realistic hand that beats us is TT imo.
I think folding is fine but I don't hate shove either. TPTK with backdoor draws might be strong enough at NL2 if the population plays that kind of hands.

88 is also possible.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by R2PNZ

Originally posted by Mozzek
I´d fold, when the second guys calls the raise. We have Ad, so they are less likely to draw for flush, which means, they have more hands, that beats us.

I considered having the Ad makes it less likely he'd have a draw but like la55i said it also gives me the backdoor outs.

When you face multiple opponents you may already be behind. Yes you have the backdoor but it is too small of opportunity.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

There's one possibility that shouldn't be overlooked in the analysis. It might be that MP is a fish calling with a weak hand, or is drawing. You can then "get away" in the side pot versus him. Raising into empty side pots with a weakfish value hand is pretty common in well-played Omaha. You expect a likely caller that is drawing less well than he thinks, and is behind value-wise. You lose the (small-ish) main pot, but win the (big-ish) side pot.

Therefore, the worst option here is to call. You almost never win the main pot, and there is no side pot to win.

I'd just fold myself, as the raising play requires accurate reads. Just planting the idea.


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