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daytripper84
Joined: 16.09.2008

Note: I know CO is a SSS player..but idk how to convert stats, but they were VPIP of 8 and PFR of 8, with about 35ish hands worth of stats that I had on him.

$0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
MP2 = ($13.01)
MP3(Hero) = ($12.84)
CO = ($1.84)
BU = ($5.00)
SB = ($8.58)
BB = ($2.23)
UTG2 = ($2.00)
MP1 = ($10.08)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.4, CO raises to $1.84(All-In), 5 folds, CO gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: $0.65.

Knowing SSS... I think I made a good lay down, but not quite sure. I appreciate the feedback! ^_^


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Mstlc
Joined: 14.03.2009

Originally posted by daytripper84
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.4, CO raises to $1.84(All-In), 5 folds, CO gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: $0.65.

Knowing SSS... I think I made a good lay down, but not quite sure. I appreciate the feedback! ^_^

Even if the shorty is a real SSS player like we know them you can NEVER fold here.

IF he is following SSS by the letter his range here is: JJ/QQ/KK/AA & AK

Aces & Kings put you behind... 20/80. Jacks however put you 80/20 in front. vs AK you are 55/45 ahead & Queens are obviously 50/50. So judging by these stands it's best to fold BUT you already invested 40c into the pot, the pot is $2.13 at that point. You only have to call $1.43 to win a $3.56 pot. Meaning you only have to win the showdown 2 out of 5 times to break even...

Unless my calculations are really off, you snap here.


Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

If you raise QQ+ vs shorty, shove it.

If someone raises and shorty shoves both in front of you, this is the only time you can lay down QQ.


Here is anther way to look on this hand:
You are ahead of more then 50% of his range with QQ.
You are getting 1:1.6 on you money. This means that if you win one time out of 2.6 you getting EV+

It's really an insta-call...


Fongie
Joined: 02.12.2006

Easy +ev call with QQ against any shorties range. Read above explanations for more detail ;)


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