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Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players
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SB: $2.53 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 27
Hero (BB): $2.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.2, Hands: 25612
BTN: $3.74 - VPIP: 36, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 2.5, Hands: 14

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A :heart: 7 :spade:
1 fold, SB raises to $0.04, Hero calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.08) 8 :heart: 5 :heart: 6 :spade: (2 players)
SB bets $0.04, Hero calls $0.04

Turn: ($0.16) K :club: (2 players)
SB bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

River: ($0.32) Q :heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.15 (thin value bet looking bluff)


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello Imimba1,

You don't have the implied odds on the turn to Call nor you can't really Bet the river for thin value, what are you betting there for thin value if FD completed? :P

Best Regards.


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Originally posted by veriz
Hello Imimba1,

You don't have the implied odds on the turn to Call nor you can't really Bet the river for thin value, what are you betting there for thin value if FD completed? :P

Best Regards.

I meant that it is a bluff, which looks like a thin value bet.

Well, we could have 11 outs (A+oesd), isnt it enough to call turn, or maybe better, semibluff raise it?


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awishformore
Joined: 16.06.2007

As played, when you are betting the river, you are almost exclusively representing a flush.

I don't think this "thin value" bluff-bet works often enough. You should rather just make it $0.24 for a real bluff, if you want to.

Personally, I would rather raise/fold the turn, as he is playing rather weak and the K should also be a scare card for him, even if you having it doesn't make all that much sense.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Originally posted by Imimba1

Originally posted by veriz
Hello Imimba1,

You don't have the implied odds on the turn to Call nor you can't really Bet the river for thin value, what are you betting there for thin value if FD completed? :P

Best Regards.

I meant that it is a bluff, which looks like a thin value bet.

Well, we could have 11 outs (A+oesd), isnt it enough to call turn, or maybe better, semibluff raise it?

awishformore gave you good point-out. :) But yes, the bluff may work but you really played the hand like a station. (sorry if I seem to be rude).


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So all in all, raise turn is nice?


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Originally posted by Imimba1
So all in all, raise turn is nice?

Depends, as always in poker. :) You may face similar spots in the future but may not work the same way. There isn't any basic lines to follow.


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Why dont we have the implied odds to call turn by the way?
We need to get a 45% bet if we hit our straight, which shouldnt be a problem: we have position, and he could bet again.


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awishformore
Joined: 16.06.2007

Because you have huge reverse implied odds against flush and at the same time, it will be very tough to extract any value in case you hit.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Originally posted by Imimba1
Why dont we have the implied odds to call turn by the way?
We need to get a 45% bet if we hit our straight, which shouldnt be a problem: we have position, and he could bet again.

Read what awishformore wrote. :) You clearly don't understand implied odds, would strongly recommend reading the article again.


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Is a semibluff-raise on the flop a good idea or not, and why?

Well, I doubt that stronger hands are going to fold. It would be mainly to collect dead money, but we have position, so we dont even need to do that imo.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Originally posted by Imimba1
Is a semibluff-raise on the flop a good idea or not, and why?

Well, I doubt that stronger hands are going to fold. It would be mainly to collect dead money, but we have position, so we dont even need to do that imo.

You may still make some weaker pairs to fold and sometimes maybe even get value from draws. :) So it's possible but not a must! ;)


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