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oviovi86
Joined: 28.11.2014

Pacific, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $1.01 (50.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $1 (50 bb)
MP: $2.21 (110.5 bb)
CO: $2.06 (103 bb)
BTN: $1.10 (55 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♣: J♣:
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.06, SB folds, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) 7♦: 5♥: 4♣: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.09, Hero calls $0.09

Turn: ($0.31) J♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.23, Hero calls $0.23

River: ($0.77) 9♥: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BTN raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.20

Results:

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$1.57 pot ($0.09 rake)
Final Board: 7♦: 5♥: 4♣: J♠: 9♥:
Hero showed A♣: J♣: and lost (-$0.78 net)
BTN showed Q♠: Q♦: and won $1.48 ($0.70 net)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

This might be a decent value 3bet pre flop.
Calling OTF with 2 overs and backdoors seem reasonable.
Calling OTT when you hit is ok too.
River donk I don't understand. Villain bets flop and turn and river is almost a blank. With TPTK I don't think you will get any more value if you donk (if he doesn't have a hand he will fold, or then he will check beihnd), now you are just donating money to better hands. When he minraises your donk, I would say you will never win the hand. You get a very good price to call but in reality this is jut very very rarely a bluff and you should adjust by overfolding.


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JB12Spawn
Joined: 14.09.2016

With just 50bb I think we should 3bet preflop, though it's not a major blunder just to call with AJs. Everything else is fine until the river which would be a difficult spot to check/call or fold. Leading with a blocking bet doesn't seem like the best idea, if we think we are ahead just go with a check/call.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yeah, having in mind that you both are halfstacks, we can 3b and play for stacks preflop.
Flop and turn are ok, but river is not. Villain is betting 2 streets, the board does not improve and we donk.... we have a nice bluffcatcher, let him do the betting.


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oI2ange
Joined: 21.07.2015

I'm not a fan of the flop. We have a lot of reverse implied odds, we are OOP, and this board isn't a great one in the sense that there are a lot of bad runouts and we're probably c/c-ing too frequently if we c/c this hand (it'd be better to c/c something like a 33T board than this one IMO). I think this seems like a better c/r OTF than c/c.


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i would usually 3bet this hand preflop , as played i'm calling down , i'm not donk betting the river. Check raising the flop cant be that bad either.

But especially this bit

Originally posted by la55i
River donk I don't understand.

If it's a blocker bet surely we don't call a raise ? but 1/3p doesn't seem like we know whether were value betting or blocking .

I wouldn't worry about the river decision it's not really important , look at earlier streets imo.


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Is there a reason for a 50bb stack ?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by Jensee
Is there a reason for a 50bb stack ?

888poker NL2 has only 50bb buy-in.


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Ah ok sorry , didn't know that. Any reason they do that , it seems strange. I actually feel quite uncomfortable playing a short stack , because i stack off far to light and lose to much money :).

Do you think microstakes players are better off getting a deal with you guys on a site that offer more rakeback like 20%+ , ive always thought 888 was pretty bad for microstakes players getting like 6% or something

How important is rakeback or a good vip scheme at 10nl and below ?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I have no idea why they have only 50bb buy in at NL2 :f_rolleyes:
Registering to our partner site is always good since you will start getting strategy points which give you access to better study material here.

Rakeback is important but you have to also consider how much rake you are paying and the other benefits of the site. Low rakeback isn't that bad if you are not paying much rake in the first place. Also if the site is soft and you make more money there than on some other sites, maybe it is worth it to play even with a bit weaker rakeback deal.


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I withdrew my roll on sky today , so ill be playing through your deal on Titan within the next few days. Looking forward to watching the vids and reading all the material on here tbh. I just get confused by all the deals on offer :).


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Do not work on multiple deals. Concentrate on one and give your best there.


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Hey jensee,

nitrol is right. We have had plenty of guys over the years working through our free money / first deposit offers/ deposit bonuses one at a time to maximise earnings and reduce the effects of variance. This can be lucrative at most iPoker sites where they offer 200% FDB's.

When we have deals like Gemstones and CashPoint, it just means extra money. As you have signed up to Titan through us, your grinding there will earn you extra through those promotions.

Regards

Laz


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