Skip to forum
Notifications
Clear all

Implied odds

6 Posts
4 Users
6 Reactions
347 Views
Deine
Joined: 27.07.2019

Hello,

I wonder if i had sufficient implied odds here for a turn call

Villain stats:

Hands 101
VPIP 60
PFR 5
A.F 0,8
postflop fold: 33%

SB: $50.90 (101.8 bb)
BB: $59.48 (119 bb)
Hero (UTG): $94.25 (188.5 bb)
MP: $72.67 (145.3 bb)
CO: $112.50 (225 bb)
BTN: $60.73 (121.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T♣: T♥:
Hero raises to $1.50, MP calls $1.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($3.75) Q♣: Q♠: 3♠: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.78, MP calls $1.78

Turn: ($7.31) A♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2, Hero calls $2

River: ($11.31) 5♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Results:

Spoiler

$11.31 pot ($0.57 rake)
Final Board: Q♣: Q♠: 3♠: A♠: 5♠:
Hero showed T♣: T♥: and lost (-$5.28 net)
MP showed 8♠: 9♠: and won $10.74 ($5.46 net)


Reply
Quote
5 replies
Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

You played it great.


Reply
Quote
kfcsekirata
Joined: 01.11.2013

I would fold on the turn.


Reply
Quote
Tyrion88
Joined: 21.06.2007

Im not sure if I get your question right.
You ask for implied odds for hitting one of the 2 outs that you have, to stack off a flush or a queen with a full house?


Reply
Quote
Deine
Joined: 27.07.2019

That is


Reply
Quote
Tyrion88
Joined: 21.06.2007

Amount to win on later streets = (1/eq*C)-(P+C)
eq = equity to hit to the nuts
C = amount to call
P = pot at the time of calling

In your example it means you need to get on average $35 on the river to make a call profitable.

On the pro side there is, that you are in position and you are both deep.
On the con side there is, that the pot is very small, that villain will not pay the hole stack if he doesn't have the nut flush draw and that even this is arguable since the board is paired.
Also one of the 2 Ts mabe even can't count as out, since 1 T is in spades. In these cases only Ks will pay you.
I don't think villain will play for stacks with a mid flush.

It could also be possible that villain only has a weak A or something. Then we will get paid even worse.

Then on the other side, maybe even a small pocket could play like this, and sometimes the river goes x/x and you are good at showdown.

There are sooo many factor to be count in, in this damned implied odds thing, that I think both options are fine.
Despite the price on the turn is soooo cheap, I think folding could be slightly more correct. But I think at the table I would have called.


Reply
Quote