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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

I post this hand because i wonder if i am too agressive!?!?
My problem is not to make so many plays like these and to keep them guessing.
The guy is a LAG player that had 3bet 14% in 200hands and he is on B in a steal position so here are my options:
fold, 4bet small and fold to all in, 4bet bluff all in, call and check/shove all in on most flops

Play hand

$0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]SB$7.05:///////;BB$12.07:///////;MP2$7.82:///////;MP3$4.01:///////;CO (Hero)$6.54:///////;BU$5.34:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is CO with T:d, J:s.
MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, BU raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $6.54, BU calls $4.59(All-In).

Flop: ($12) 4:s, 8:s, Q:c (2 players)

Turn: ($12) (2 players)

River: ($12) (2 players)

Final Pot: $12.

Results follow:

Hero shows a straight, queen high(Td Js).
BU shows high card ace(Ac Kc).

Hero wins with a straight, queen high(Td Js).
In a book i read you can 4bet bluff small about 1/3 of times.


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VTomukas
Joined: 30.12.2007

If you are ready to bluff 4bet shove vs LAG player, you should better select hands to it with. Instead of any random junk, it would better bluff shove hands like Ax (A blocks a part of his calling range, also you do have additional equity against big pairs) or small pairs (additional equity against two big face cards, that will be calling your shove - they have a lot more combo's than big pockets).

But. First at all, to be successful with 4bet bluff shove, you should play it exactly as you would play your top of your range there. Would you 4bet push AA/KK there? I seriously doubt about that. So you shrunk your range to make it weaker - not a good idea. I also don't like the way you try to counter LAG player - I'd like to play more tight preflop, but to stack off more light than against any other player. So, instead of bluff shoving junk, you should better wait for some better hands, that has more value against aggro players.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

This is not your first hand where you are aggressive with a weak hand vs a wide 3 bettor.
After villain 3 bets you - you have to fold this hand! No need to fight for every hand and every pot. Yes, you know he is 3 betting wide but your hand is weaker than his wide range and you will be OOP. F-O-L-D, man.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

When 4bet bluff we need to have as much fold equity as we can get (generally, 60%+). Naturally, we have more fold equity when holding blockers, so hands like AXs, KXs and QXs are much better candidates for 4bet bluffs. If we hold those, the probability that the opponent has a big hand is lower, which means that our fold equity is higher.


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GoOnCal1
Joined: 22.01.2015

I read somewhere J10 was once considered the best starting hand


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by GoOnCal1
I read somewhere J10 was once considered the best starting hand

I'm pretty sure it was J9. ;)


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