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_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Originally posted by Talic
I call flop, hopefully call turn and raise river :o) but you will often have to raiseturn to protect

THanks for the info yeah it's probably best line, but I am asking about folding as played. This is probably the 1st time in my poker career I think going all-in on this turn is big -EV for me with a set, I have never ever folded set before on dry boards.


Jumbles
Joined: 06.10.2007
Oldschool Grinder

Just wanted to ask, how would you play top pair on this flop? Say you have 78 or 89s 3 handed.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Originally posted by Jumbles
Just wanted to ask, how would you play top pair on this flop? Say you have 78 or 89s 3 handed.

Call once or fold. In this particular situation I'd fold, but I wouldn't call with it preflop, it's -EV because of positions.


Dragar
Joined: 09.09.2008
PokerStrategist

Originally posted by Balanarm

Originally posted by Dragar
He hit Q
He is using Q as a scare card against you
He is on a flush draw

1. Never.
2. Never.
3. Never.

;)

Fine... fold your set again to half pot size bet next time
;)
:rolleyes:


alejandrosh
Joined: 02.07.2008
Oldschool Grinder

I think you should post this hand on the hand evaluation coaching. altough kaitz already said he is mostly not folding.

but it's a interesting hand nevertheless.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Originally posted by alejandrosh
I think you should post this hand on the hand evaluation coaching. altough kaitz already said he is mostly not folding.

but it's a interesting hand nevertheless.

It's not interesting for hand evaluation coaching, almost any line is ok here.
It's mostly guessing his range here and deciding to go for it or fold.


alejandrosh
Joined: 02.07.2008
Oldschool Grinder

Originally posted by Dragar
Notice his half-bet pot size on the turn? You really think he would do that on a set with a flush draw open?

I don't think he would be worried at all about a backdoor flush draw, if he's any decent he would put Hero on an over pair or set.

Stats are one thing, but if Balanarm has played long enough with this dude to KNOW that he just doesn't overcall funky hands like 68s, even from the button, and that he would fold 99 to flop action (and 3bet all higher pairs preflop)... then it's not unreasonable at all to accurately put him on a better set, and decide that there will be much better spots to get the money in vs this guy.

Personally I don't know if I can get away from this... but if you've really been "in the zone" and watching this guy closely and decide that he has a better set, then by all means trust your instinct and go for the fold (and don't post about it here ;))


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Originally posted by nafar84

Originally posted by Dragar
Notice his half-bet pot size on the turn? You really think he would do that on a set with a flush draw open?

I don't think he would be worried at all about a backdoor flush draw, if he's any decent he would put Hero on an over pair or set.

Stats are one thing, but if Balanarm has played long enough with this dude to KNOW that he just doesn't overcall funky hands like 68s, even from the button, and that he would fold 99 to flop action (and 3bet all higher pairs preflop)... then it's not unreasonable at all to accurately put him on a better set, and decide that there will be much better spots to get the money in vs this guy.

Personally I don't know if I can get away from this... but if you've really been "in the zone" and watching this guy closely and decide that he has a better set, then by all means trust your instinct and go for the fold (and don't post about it here ;))

Oh man I think you feel exactly what I thought. And yes you are right, I should not have posted it here, it's not a hand for evaluation, I just thought wow it's hero fold must post! So childish


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_Anonymous_

WOW, this is epic, 2 years passed. I never folded a set on this kind of board. But I still think this is a fold.


Originally posted by Balanarm
WOW, this is epic, 2 years passed. I never folded a set on this kind of board. But I still think this is a fold.

lol
I guess you can fold, but if player shows you 86s or 97s you want to kill yourself


Hi,

I actually like your fold because of the constellation and 3 way.
The coldcall from BU is nearly always 88 or 66, at least in my experience.
I have seen such a play so often.

Just think about that way: What would you do if you had 66, 88 and you were to act on flop after TAG contibets into 2, sandwichplayer raises although you are left to act?

Look at this thread from me where i actually folded a set, too:
Sick spot with set

Best regards,
Anin


Originally posted by AninIII
Hi,

I actually like your fold because of the constellation and 3 way.
The coldcall from BU is nearly always 88 or 66, at least in my experience.
I have seen such a play so often.

Just think about that way: What would you do if you had 66, 88 and you were to act on flop after TAG contibets into 2, sandwichplayer raises although you are left to act?

Look at this thread from me where i actually folded a set, too:
Sick spot with set

Best regards,
Anin

No need really to 3-bet flop with 66/88, but my question is what would you do with 79 or 86 :)


Originally posted by Kaitz20
No need really to 3-bet flop with 66/88, but my question is what would you do with 79 or 86 :)

Hmm, good question.
I'd fold 97 if I were in BU shoes and only maybe call 86 and sometimes really fold it.
The problem really in this spot is, that a tight PFA contibets into 2, then the sandwich player raises which shows a lot of strength.


well I´m never folding there 66/88, since he can always have there lower set and 3-betting nuts on dry board generally sin´t the best idea if I´d hold 88, so I guess I would call and shove any turn card


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