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[Closed] NL10 – QQ vs SS or TAG re-raise

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[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB$7.00:11/36 /0 /-/25 /0 /100 /0 ;Hero$2.05:///////;BU$1.95:77/8 /8 /6.0/80 /0 /-/75 ;[/tg]
0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q♦, Q♠
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, BU raises to $1.95 (All-In), SB folds, BB calls $1.85, Hero raises to $2.05 (All-In), BB calls $0.10.

Flop: ($6.10) 3♣, T♥, 2♣
Turn: ($6.10) T♣
River: ($6.10) A♥

Final Pot: $6.10

Overview: BU is either a SS player or TAG. To re-raise me from late position he would have to be AK+, JJ+ for SS – or maybe AQ+, 10-10+ if he was TAG. Should I have folded in light of his statistics? I was reluctant to fold given the the possibility of a double up (since the loose BB called the re-raise).


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008
Elite Grinder

Hi John

If the BB calls your raise he only produce Dead money so you want to have that! As he is very loose passive, you can give him a wide range so often your Ladies are +EV.

Dead money decreases the amount of Equity you need to be profitable so thats good too!

so in the end looking from a mathematical perspective:
You got 48% versus AK+ JJ+

Total pot is
($0.4+$1.95+$1.95[Assume BB calls your remaining $0.1])x0.95 :: your remaining stack
$4.1:$1.65
$2.5:1~
=
You need 28% Equity to be Profitable in the long run

Give BB a wide range (11% or something) and you see - through Equilator - that you have 39% if you play against those guys.

So I would push here as well, I never fold Queens in this spot ;)


TheBu11d0g
Joined: 25.07.2008
PokerStrategist

You haven't got a big enough sample size of hands on the player as yet to be able to use the stats with any certainty, for vp$ip, pfr, and af you need at least 100+ hands on the player for them to be realistic.

As played it was an excellant play. according to your remaining stack:original raise ratio, the QQ push was the correct action. Well played.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

@ Gerv.

So I'm risking $1 to win $3.5. Hence I need >28% (100/3.5) odds to be profitable? Still not that great at the maths side of things - I think I'm going to have to use a calculator from now on when playing.

@ TheBu11d0g

That's true. But I think I have enough to make an estimate, even if it isn't completely realistic.


Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008
Elite Grinder

$2.5:1~
=
You need 28% Equity to be Profitable in the long run

You invest $1 to win $2.5, 3.5 to the power of minus-One = 28% ;)


TheBu11d0g
Joined: 25.07.2008
PokerStrategist

Just be careful when using estimates to make a judgement as they can sometimes come back to bite ya on the arse , as i know only too well.


Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008
Elite Grinder

Originally posted by TheBu11d0g
Just be careful when using estimates to make a judgement.

Could you explain this line to me please?


TheBu11d0g
Joined: 25.07.2008
PokerStrategist

I'm just trying to say that only estimating a player might be this or might be that without concrete evidence from enough hands on a player can be a bit hit or miss IMO.


098799
Joined: 23.07.2007
Oldschool Grinder

QQ I never fold against ss :). BB can have variety of hands and his call only makes things easier. Now you need only 33% equity to win this one and I guess you do.


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