NL25 SH - float vs thinking player

Hi,

Problem floating flop is that he would very often continue turn, so I would either b/f (or against player who like moves I think check behind is also fine) or 3-bet flop to 6$ that looks very strong and I think he would almost never going to shove there light.

Originally posted by Kaitz20
Hi,

Problem floating flop is that he would very often continue turn, so I would either b/f (or against player who like moves I think check behind is also fine) or 3-bet flop to 6$ that looks very strong and I think he would almost never going to shove there light.

I think that a small 3-bet on the flop will make it so that he can call with his draws, and has to shove all the monster. So, if I know that villain is c/ring me with a wide range I like to 3-bet small, fold to a shove, and ship it turn if called. Is this good?

Problem is that he would also very likely call your flop 3-bet his tp hands if he decides to c/r them for value and might not fold to your turn shove.
Also he can´t really have there nut flushdraw and since you´re ahead of his flushdraws I don´t really like shoving turn with A high. If I picked up nut flushdraw I think then shoving seems more reasonable.

Originally posted by Kaitz20
Problem is that he would also very likely call your flop 3-bet his tp hands if he decides to c/r them for value and might not fold to your turn shove.
Also he can´t really have there nut flushdraw and since you´re ahead of his flushdraws I don´t really like shoving turn with A high. If I picked up nut flushdraw I think then shoving seems more reasonable.

Even if we are ahead of the draws, we will lose the pot if we check turn, because he will almost always bet the missed draws on the river vs a turn check, and we won't like to be put it that position.

I also think it would be quite hard to play his TP hands for stacks in a single raised pot when we 3-bet flop and shove turn. I mean, if he is a thinking reg, won't he deduce that we want a call, given our small flop 3bet size?

If he is weak player I doubt he would bet river his missed draws, but even if he does why would we don´t want him to bluff river rather than shove ourself and forcing out worse hands. If we think he is going over the line flop c/r we have enough times there AQ+ or strong draws that we can 3-bet flop and shove turn rather than AK that like doesn´t really have too much equity if getting called.

I agree that he may fold there tp hands, but just why would we want to push him out with AK high. We can always have there hands that has a lot more equity.