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NL5 - post-flop leak?

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Hey guys, I think I located a leak. Looks like I don't fold to 3bet (esp. huge/all-in) often enough. I lost 3 stacks with this kinda play. What do you think about these hands?

Except that my Fold to 3Bet is 79% (132 out of 167 hands).

HAND #1

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP+1: $9.70
LP: $5.00
CO: $2.00
BTN: $3.93
SB: $5.00
Hero (BB): $5.57
UTG: $5.00
UTG+1: $5.00
MP: $9.63

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K♣ A♠

fold, fold, MP calls $0.05, MP+1 raises to $0.22, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, MP+1 calls $0.38

Flop: ($1.27, 2 players) K♦ 3♥ J♥
Hero bets $0.80, MP+1 raises to $9.10 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.17 and is all-in

Turn: ($11.21, 2 players) 5♠

River: ($11.21, 2 players) 4♥

Spoiler

MP+1 shows J♣ J♠ (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (PreFlop 57%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows K♣ A♠ (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 43%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
MP+1 wins $10.47

HAND #2

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $4.87
UTG: $2.48
UTG+1: $2.05
MP: $8.57
Hero (MP+1): $7.83
LP: $6.38
CO: $5.59
BTN: $2.00
SB: $2.76

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q♣ Q♠

UTG raises to $0.20, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.60, SB calls $0.58, BB calls $0.55, UTG raises to $2.48 and is all-in, Hero raises to $4.36, BTN calls $1.40 and is all-in, fold, fold

Flop: ($8.16, 3 players) 6♥ 8♠ 9♠

Turn: ($8.16, 3 players) 5♦

River: ($8.16, 3 players) 6♠

Spoiler

Hero shows Q♣ Q♠ (Two Pair, Queens and Sixes) (PreFlop 19%, Flop 17%, Turn 8%)
BTN shows K♥ A♣ (One Pair, Sixes) (PreFlop 24%, Flop 13%, Turn 10%)
UTG shows K♦ K♣ (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes) (PreFlop 57%, Flop 71%, Turn 82%)
UTG wins $7.62


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shivas80
Joined: 24.12.2008

Hand 1 i would fold to such a shove.. u have invested almost nothing compared to what u need to call, pot is small, and all u beat is QQ

Too many times u see here: AK ( with hearts or without), AA, KK, JJ, and even 33, tho 33 maybe out of range based on preflop action.

So basicly u loose to KK, JJ, AA, and someone with AK (any heart) is freerolling against you.

Becoz of small pot (not commited yet), i would try to fold here.

Hand 2 - shove and see what happens... can't see myself folding there (mostly becoz of stack sizes)


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Originally posted by shivas80(mostly becoz of stack sizes)

Could you elaborate on that?


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello ruvince,

First of all, could you next time post them into different threads, the hands. It's a lot easier to evaluate them for us and as well we can concentrate on just one hand.

Hand #1
Only hand what we beat here is I guess KQ which he is taking such a line. And we have too much to Call there to make it profitable. We need like 40% equity but against this range, we don't get it:

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 37,772% 35,720% 4,104% 60,175% AsKc
Player 2: 62,228% 60,175% 4,104% 35,720% KK+, JJ, 33, AhKh, KQs, KQo

Therefore I guess I am more often inclined to fold the hand unless I have some reads or stats on the opponent.

Hand #2
Not much to do against those shorties.

Best regards.


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Thanks veriz, I will.


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