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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

feel like my best shot at the pot is to cbet, merits are i can take it down now, if button folds I can choose to check back turn & realise equuity

cons - when called im putting money in and basically feel the need to give up on almost every turn card

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 95.8 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
SB: 98.96 BB
BB: 96.12 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG: 267.2 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.58, PFR: 15.11, 3Bet Preflop: 6.85, Hands: 322)
Hero (CO): 108.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9♣ 9♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 2♠ J♥ 6♦
SB checks, Hero bets 4.84 BB, BTN calls 4.84 BB, fold

Turn: (19.68 BB, 2 players) A♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 9.4 BB, fold

BTN wins 18.8 BB


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

You gave 'em perfect price otf. Donno why you sold the turn card so cheap, especially in mw.


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Kalecia
Joined: 28.08.2015

I am not sure if it's correct play but I am playing it in the same way, small sizing on the flop because 1st you want to make them fold all over cards 2nd with such sizing u might extract value from 6x or some lower PP than yours.

However BTN looks pretty loose so his range might contain a lot of weak Jx and PP and some random floats and when A comes on the turn it might be a good spot to turn hand into a bluff and fire 3 barrels


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

why would i want to bet bigger when i'm barrelling like 0 turns on a dry board?

it's protection bet / thin value from unders - do you think their calling range is changing if i bet like 2/3?


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Originally posted by mattyvx
it's protection bet / thin value from unders - do you think their calling range is changing if i bet like 2/3?

Exactly, calling range won't change... On such a dry boards pocket pairs, Ax pay u easy money. Those are basics, u play already 25's.

Originally posted by Kalecia
I am not sure if it's correct play but I am playing it in the same way, small sizing on the flop because 1st you want to make them fold all over cards 2nd

Not sure if I understood the point correctly, correct me if im wrong. You want to fold "over cards" betting small? I would venture to claim that quite the opposite is true. Although these overs are not likely to fold no matter what sizing u'll choose since villains are in position and the board structure encourage to float.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I prefer the little bigger size on flop. Especially mw.
On turn A is nice barrel card too.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

I would play it the same way as hero - don´t want to build so big pot here. But what Berezovaya wrote about their non-elastic ranges can be true.


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Kalecia
Joined: 28.08.2015

Originally posted by Berezovaya

Originally posted by mattyvx
it's protection bet / thin value from unders - do you think their calling range is changing if i bet like 2/3?

Exactly, calling range won't change... On such a dry boards pocket pairs, Ax pay u easy money. Those are basics, u play already 25's.

Originally posted by Kalecia
I am not sure if it's correct play but I am playing it in the same way, small sizing on the flop because 1st you want to make them fold all over cards 2nd

Not sure if I understood the point correctly, correct me if im wrong. You want to fold "over cards" betting small? I would venture to claim that quite the opposite is true. Although these overs are not likely to fold no matter what sizing u'll choose since villains are in position and the board structure encourage to float.

Ye I assume that BTN gonna fold OC because it's MW and board is mega dry and if he has a little bit brain and probably lack of info because on p* fields are HUGE he is not going to float when SB is behind him(correct me if such standards doesnt work anymore,because I have played nl25 zoom 3 years ago last time). Also about the sizing I am making similar on this paricular board structure even if I expect floats because there is not much equity we have to protect and also I am playing sets and OP and TPTK the same way and another pros that we control the pot.

Also I might be a fan of small sizing cuz it fit my game style from CO, where I had on zoom25 RFI from CO around 60% and "valuebets bluffs" worked very well for me in that time.

All in all, I still think that Hero line is still fine because it's low variance, however turning hand into a bluff and fire 3 barrels are fine too because many KJ/QJ/JT or floating KQ and maybe few AXss. But when playing 3 barrels I would choose smal sizins to don't scary him out but politely convice him that we have Ax :) simply because we're OOP and we might just run into the wall when we bet big


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