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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Very ugly but can i folded 2nd nuts? I beted villain KJ after push the river.

1K 35/11, wtsd 34

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $5.13 (102.6 bb)
MP1: $6.53 (130.6 bb)
MP2: $3.13 (62.6 bb)
MP3: $9.44 (188.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $2.60 (52 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♥: J♥:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.37) Q♠: 9♥: T♥: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.24, BTN calls $0.24

Turn: ($0.85) 8♣: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.56, BTN calls $0.56

River: ($1.97) 6♣: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.95, BTN raises to $1.65 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.70

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Results: $5.27 pot ($0.22 rake)
Final Board: Q♠: 9♥: T♥: 8♣: 6♣:
Hero showed Q♥: J♥: and lost (-$2.60 net)
BTN showed K♥: J♣: and won $5.05 ($2.45 net)


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Densyosh
Joined: 30.10.2009

This is a cooler and of course you cannot fold this sizing lol..


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Just bet the 1.65$ that BTN has left. Your river size doesn't make sense.
You can't fold OTR even if he shows you KJ


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

Yeah your river size does not make sense. You just don't want to win his last 0.7 and that's 14BB loss, just think how long you should play to make 14BB profit. FR regular tables loaded with nits, don't think that you can have very high BB/100.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

This only depend this board what can call. Villain fish probably can call one pair or two pair. But if i played this hand the reg, never call pot bet the river only he put me flush draw.

I see lot players who win 10BB/100 NL5 or more, some players can 20BB/100 what i think is very good. And another topic someone suggest 77 not open raise utg and i checked the winners NL5 players utg open raise is between 9 and 12. So 77 always enough to open raise.


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

20/100 really? I don't think that's even possible, you need fishes and loose players and a lot of them. Vs nits you can hardly make anything, you can exploit them but that will be 1-2BB/100 at most. And there is another thing, if one is really good player he will not play FR, he will climb the 6-max limits, because 6-max is where you can show and use your skills and talent.


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cms81
Joined: 24.04.2013

Standard cooler by the looks of it! I agree you should just be shoving river rather than bet calling off at least you just lose half a stack.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

I will check it tomorrow the win rate but i see lot of player who i have about 4-5K or more hand and they have 10-12BB/100 but i see some who have more. And if you play 6max you are be very good especially micro limit because players almost never fold and of course more regs and nits you find 6max. And if you say full ring is dead why have major tournaments almost all full ring and not 6max.


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Pokamon
Joined: 15.04.2006

Originally posted by ToddBrunson
i see lot of player who i have about 4-5K or more hand .

for an accurate WR you would need 100-250k hands from that player. 5k hands tell exactly nothing.


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

I am not saying that FR is dead, I say that good and talanted players will not play there. 6-max you can win more and that's obvious - you play more hands, players are looser, pots are bigger etc, a great player will have a great edge. This is of course at the cost of more efforts, more learning, more variation, higher bankroll etc. FR you can make some money, but you will be in micros forever, that's the big difference. Some people are happy to be paid x$ per hour for their entire life, others want to climb to the top as much higher as possible. FR vs 6-max is same thing. Ah and I bet that 20BB/100 will be impossible FR for any player over a good sample at least 200K hands.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

How many your win rate 6max and which level? I try 6max wh and partypoker and very boring, most of player super tight only cooler-cooler most of time AA vs KK AK vs QQ but very hard to reach 10BB/100 or more. And full ring you easily play 8-9 or more tables but 6max i think you can not play 8-9 tables if you like see what happen the tables. Maybe partypoker and wh not the best site if you play 6max, i don't know.


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Densyosh
Joined: 30.10.2009

Winrate is to link with volume (xh/h)
50h/h*20bb/100 < 200h/h*10bb/100


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Do you think if someone only can winrate full ring 5 or 10BB or maybe less 5BB can it try 6max? I think lot of tag, nit, better lag kill its stack easily.


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