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QQ vs 4-bet

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stond
Joined: 24.01.2006

Known Players:
MP2: $13,13 - 131 bb
MP3: $10,00 - 100 bb
CO: $10,00 - 100 bb
BU: $10,00 - 100 bb
SB: $10,30 - 103 bb
BB: $9,35 - 94 bb

0.05/0.10 No Limit Hold'em (6 Handed)
Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 2.1.30121.1

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:heart:, Q:club:
SB posts small blind ($0,05), BB posts big blind ($0,10), MP2 folds, Hero raises for $0,30, CO 3-bets $0,90, 3 folds, Hero 4-bets $1,50, CO reraises for $1,80, Hero calls

Flop: ($5,55 - 55.50 bb) 9:heart:, 4:heart:, 3:club: (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1,95, Hero raises for $7,30 and is all in, CO calls and is all in

Turn: ($20,15 - 201.50 bb) J:club: (2 Players)

River: ($20,15 - 201.50 bb) 4:spade: (2 Players)

No reads on Zoom.

I clearly put him on KK/AA after his 4-bet, but i dont find the fold button there and after this kind of flop im pretty much committed. What do you guys do here, i loose tons of money with QQ. Seems to be a big leak.


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plopfessional
Joined: 21.09.2016

TL;DR: call the 3bet, fold to 5bet.

I really dislike your 4bet sizing. You should avoid having a lot of money to play with if this goes to a flop. With the small 4bet you are telling villain, that you have a very strong hand but still give him the odds to try to beat you. Going to $2,40-$2,50 seems better. Then if you get 5bet you can always consider that a shove and go from there.

As played, villain put in 27% of the eff. stack. You have to decide here if he only has AA/KK or if he can bluff. By default I would not assume the he bluffs here, so it is a clear fold pre. Otherwise it would be a shove, because you can't do a lot postflop other puting your money in (as you did).

All things considered. When you 4bet bigger and only expect to get shoves from AA/KK and rarely AK/QQ you should consider other hands for 4betting. If villain 3bets a lot here, you should be looking to call QQ and 4bet A2s-A5s kind of hands as a bluff.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Again something weird with the raise sizes?
I think it is either fold or shove pre vs that 4bet.


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plopfessional
Joined: 21.09.2016

Originally posted by la55i
Again something weird with the raise sizes?
I think it is either fold or shove pre vs that 4bet.

*5bet


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Deividyz
Joined: 18.01.2009

IMHO, after you 4bet, you CANT call, you MUST push. Because if villain have AK he will fold on flop and you will loose some blinds, if he have AA / KK you already put too much money in the pot, you cant fold either. Anyway, call 5bet is *never* good in any case, there is no reason to call 5bet, also your 4bet should be something between $2.1~$3.
If you think QQ is not good to push PF with that villain, you should call 3bet (just play for the Q and fold on flop if not hit) or fold for 3bet, never ever 4bet/call.


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