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yangmartins
Joined: 28.11.2009

Something different, for a change. Let's see if you engage with it.
If this is not supposed to be here, please delete it.

PokerStars - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 213.6 BB 350hands: 24/18 CO_VPIP:32, Fto3Bet: 60; FCB: 69, TCB: 38, RCB: 0; RiverFold:33.
An ABC kind of player.

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PokerStars - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 213.6 BB
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 221.8 BB
BB: 101.5 BB
UTG: 119.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♥ K♦

fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) Q♠ T♣ 8♠
CO bets 4.2 BB, Hero calls 4.2 BB

Turn: (14.9 BB, 2 players) 6♠
CO bets 3.6 BB, Hero calls 3.6 BB

River: (22.1 BB, 2 players) 3♥
CO checks, Hero bets 15 BB, CO calls 15 BB

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 221.8 BB
BB: 101.5 BB
UTG: 119.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Been a little card dead on this table. So I decided to play some stats on this hand.

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has ??

fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) Q♠ T♣ 8♠
CO bets 4.2 BB, Hero calls 4.2 BB

Turn: (14.9 BB, 2 players) 6♠
CO bets 3.6 BB, Hero calls 3.6 BB

River: (22.1 BB, 2 players) 3♥
CO checks, Hero bets 15 BB

What hand do you place me in:
1: QTo
2: T9s/98s
3: 97s
4: KJo/s
5: AQ/KQ
6: ATo/s
7: JTo/s
8: QXo
9: 88, 66, 33
10: Other. What?

For what hands would this play make sense and for what hands would it be just stupid?
What would you call me with in villain shoes?


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

I like this, going to check spoiler now. Ah, I put that hand in the 3bet and made sense category.

1: QTo - Maybe
2: T9s/98s - Maybe
3: 97s - Maybe
4: KJo/s - 3bet
5: AQ/KQ - 3bet
6: ATo/s -3bet
7: JTo/s - Maybe
8: QXo - Maybe
9: 88, 66, 33 - Maybe
10: Other. What?

For what hands would this play make sense and for what hands would it be just stupid?

QTo, Q8s, 97s, 88, 66, 33, KJo/s

Tx and weak Qx would be stupid to bet I guess.

What would you call me with in villain shoes? One pair hands I am assuming?

AA, KK, AQ, KQ, QJ,


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

If you play a game like this you shouldn't give the hand in the spoiler.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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yangmartins
Joined: 28.11.2009

Originally posted by SDK1987
If you play a game like this you shouldn't give the hand in the spoiler.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Lol, took it off when I first wrote it, but "timed out" and forgot on the 2nd time


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LookAwayNow
Joined: 30.06.2011

I like the idea of this post.

1: QTo - nope, raise turn vs his low cbet
2: T9s/98s - nope, they checkback river
3: 97s - nope, similar to QTo
4: KJo/s - definitely
5: AQ/KQ - possibly, call some, raise some on turn and go for thin value on river
6: ATo/s - nope, check back river
7: JTo/s - nope, check back river
8: QXo - possibly, going for thin value on river
9: 88, 66, 33 - nope, 88 raise flop or at least turn, 66 raise turn and 33 fold flop.
10: Other. J9s maybe.

Could be some flopped straight, maybe some made flushes that didn't raise turn or a missed straight draw that bluffs river.

I am going with J9s :)


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yangmartins
Joined: 28.11.2009

Originally posted by LookAwayNow
I like the idea of this post.

1: QTo - nope, raise turn vs his low cbet
2: T9s/98s - nope, they checkback river
3: 97s - nope, similar to QTo
4: KJo/s - definitely
5: AQ/KQ - possibly, call some, raise some on turn and go for thin value on river
6: ATo/s - nope, check back river
7: JTo/s - nope, check back river
8: QXo - possibly, going for thin value on river
9: 88, 66, 33 - nope, 88 raise flop or at least turn, 66 raise turn and 33 fold flop.
10: Other. J9s maybe.

Could be some flopped straight, maybe some made flushes that didn't raise turn or a missed straight draw that bluffs river.

I am going with J9s :)

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KJo vs Q8
Im curious if he'd call me with a simple Q. He tanked before calling


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I perceived you as weak. Top pair at best. Even this hand is questionable. But i dont have enough info about your postflop tendecies. I expect you to check back OTR with your top pairs.

You almost never have sets or top2. With these hands you will raise OTF most of the time. It's on the turn where you giveaway the strenght of your hand. When you call his small bet on a flush card this weakens your top range.

Not to mention that you dont have a lot of sets as well. With QQ TT you will 3bet most of the time. Your sets and top2 need protection. You dont want to give cheap river card with this hands. I expect you to raise your flushes as well. There is only 1 steet left and you want to build a pot.

However. I dont like your play. Without specific information i will fold or 3bet preflop and rarely flat. When there is dinamics and i dont want to pump the variance. As a frequency fold most of the time against an ABC player. On the flop i will fold as well. I want edge to do this kind of moves.

On the turn i dont like it either. If you choose to float you should raise big on the turn. That's the point of floating. It's a perfect spot for a bluff raise. You could balance this line with flushes. Also SPR. You have enough SPR to make a big scary raise and getaway if you hit V's top range and save money. That's crucial And even if you do hit it you have some equity against part of it. You will win from time to time if you do get caught.

If you play a game like this you shouldn't give the hand in the spoiler.

Dont agree with this. I want to see the hand so i can check my thought process


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