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flop line bvb vs raise on dry flop

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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006
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PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 94.02 BB (VPIP: 25.19, PFR: 19.08, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 133)
Hero (SB): 118.76 BB
BB: 170.16 BB (VPIP: 21.68, PFR: 14.69, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 147)
UTG: 330.36 BB (VPIP: 29.11, PFR: 20.58, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 2,771)
MP: 166.06 BB (VPIP: 18.30, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.21, Hands: 230)
CO: 323.44 BB (VPIP: 25.07, PFR: 16.19, 3Bet Preflop: 2.74, Hands: 786)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♠ J♥ Q♦ J♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) T♦ 8♠ 3♣
Hero bets 4.1 BB, BB raises to 15.64 BB, Hero ?,

whats ure line here against a solid reg.

he is repping not much especially in this situation bvb.

problem i see is my pair and that i´m oop and have often to fold ott if i call and ev turn. (was thinking of reraising otf with my nutgutter and bdfd )

villian wtsd 25 wsd 43 af flop 1,5 overall 2,1 aggr freq 49 raise cb no hands (thats why i fold)


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Suhepxm
Joined: 20.10.2008
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i think folding is way too weak in this spot.

I think 3betting flop is a decent option, but i would want more information about his range/history before i do this.

i call flop and decide turn, leading some straightcards and c/c 2pairs and bd fds


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006
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3betting turns your hand into a bluff basically. he will rarely call the 3bet as you block wraps, so he will either fold hands which you have beat (and maybe so you don't, but unlikely) or get it in with better hands.
as folding is too weak imo i call flop, with a bit history call almost any turn.


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006
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well in my mind the problem here is that i dont have any history/notes with him. i find it hard to play the turn without it. Often i will c/f. but i agrree it feels very weak to b/f flop


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011
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Hi,

b/f the flop here is indeed weak, but sometimes vs an unknown the correct play. I'd argue for a call here as you can use your blockers + u have some decent turns, but in general just folding here vs an unknown is ok. It's tough to play PLO oop :)

Regards,

Skod


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Ephedrine10
Joined: 12.02.2014
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yeah, B/f seems fine. he probably has more like a made hand coz he'd have 3 betted with most of his wraps pre: (he has 10% 3bet overall- so bvb its like15%)


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NatRPheM
Joined: 05.10.2008
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If opponent is tight I think most of his raising range here is sets (seeing as we're kinda blocking all wraps) or 2 pair.. we're not doing that horrible against two pairs since we have an overpair, but, I think I would still bet/f here but I wouldn't like it at all. If I had specific notes about the player being tight and not at all spewy I would be fine with a fold, especially OOP.


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