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Chewbaccak
Chewbaccak
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06.10.2008, 09:40

Full Tilt Poker Game #8356539927: Table Danube (deep) - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 7:35:18 ET - 2008/10/05

Place 1 : Hero ($12.30)
Place 2 : BB ($22.45)
Place 3 : UTG ($4)
Place 4 : UTG+1 ($22.35)
Place 5 : MP1 ($3.85)
Place 6 : MP2 ($11.50)
Place 7 : MP3 ($8.10)
Place 8 : CO ($7.85)
Place 9 : BU ($24.85)

Dealt to Hero [A:h J:d Q:s 7:c]

1 fold
UTG+1 calls $0.10
1 fold
MP2 calls $0.10
3 folds
Hero calls $0.05
BB checks

FLOP [5:d T:h K:d]
3 checks
MP2 bets $0.20
Hero calls $0.20
1 fold
UTG+1 calls $0.20

TURN [5:d T:h K:d] [Q:c]
Hero bets $1
UTG+1 raises to $2
1 fold
Hero calls $1

RIVER [5:d T:h K:d Q:c] [T:c]
Hero checks
UTG+1 bets $5
Hero folds

UTG+1 is a rock, so after his min-reraise on the turn, I am almost certain he has AJ too. I just called for fear of getting freerolled by AJ + a flush or full redraw. Was this move too weak ? And, after the river, I check/folded, but should I call, or bet to represent a full house ?


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Kimber88
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06.10.2008, 11:48

Think I would have bet this one somewhere around $2, to represent a strong hand. To a reraise that would of course make your next move even harder. But I wouldn't throw that hand away.

I'm new to Omaha, so I might not be completely right here..

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Sim87
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06.10.2008, 13:48

preflop is close, you don't have any suits. as played a call on the turn is okay given your reads. Given this read, you can fold to a river bet because you might as well call with a set on the turn which improved so he won't valuebet anything worse here (like J9) so you'll see a split pot or a full house, making your call a negative freeroll.


Chewbaccak Topic starter
Chewbaccak
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Posts: 637
06.10.2008, 18:32

Yes, I call the BB with marginal hands too often when I am SB, I need to correct his leak.

Thank you :)


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chenny8888
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07.10.2008, 22:47

what about b/f river?


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Sim87
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08.10.2008, 02:55

Originally posted by chenny8888
what about b/f river?

hm I don't know, this is very player dependent. hero's line here indicates anything but a FH with the bet/call on the turn ♦ good opponents will never call worse and always raise better. however, against this opponent it might be good since you can switch the freeroll situation on him and he maybe won't even raise bad FHses so I kinda like it :)


chenny8888
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08.10.2008, 06:45

i think he sometimes will still call J9 but yeah... we get thin value, avoid negative freeroll, and do not ever fold the best hand.. = WIN!


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zhorzh
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09.10.2008, 12:17

I am also new to omaha..thats why I want to ask why not 3bet all in if possible on turn ?
We have the nuts and want to protect, no ?


Sim87
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09.10.2008, 12:34

yes we have the nuts on the turn but it's very likely that our opponent also has a straight and he might have a straight with a set or an additional flushdraw so he freerolls us if we both get it in on the turn. calling and waiting for a save river is okay, we have no redraws.


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