PLO25 5533ss effective stack too shallow to call?

You get fined in Finland for folding that. Easy call.

Kyyberi, Im really surprised. ♦

I dont like the odds. You are 4:1 flop a set, 8:1 to get shitty flushdraw. Upside is good blokker potential and position. However, by calling we induce an risk multiway-pot to happed and those weak bigger pairs get good odds. We will either catch value for 3 streets (or lose) or valuebet from ip 3 streets. Any more action and we are usually not in very good shape. We hope that some will overplay his bare top2. Short stacked raiser wont make costly enough mistakes for us to profit fom position when we are heads-up. I like small pair from position to be doublesuited or offsuit-pair+suited when half of the time when setting it has atleast backdoor-flushdraw to go with. Maybe with good reads on opponent or opponents this could be a call from position to see if there are any exploitable spots on flop.

Was that tight enough?!

Call

We get set 1/4 times and we are calling 3,4bb. To be profitable only with set mining we need to win a pot of over 14bb on average. After the call the pot is a bit over 8 on lowest and 14bb if both blinds call. Low sets are vulnerable in multiway pots, but hitting a bottom set doesn't mean we have to stack off. I think we should be able to play bottom sets as breakeven postflop in position even in multiway pots. If blinds fold, we need to get value of 6bb on average from CO postflop if we hit a set. He has 14bb behind on a pot of 8bb which means he will stack off quite often.

Even if blinds raise, they are most likely AA/KK heavy. CO will always call, and that shouldn't open a new betting round. If blinds are raising less than a pot to overcome this and CO comes over the top, it's an easy fold. If CO just calls or his shove doesn't open a new betting round, it's an easy call for us. We still hit set 1/4 times, and we need just 1/3 of the pot as value postflop. I think we should be able to do that in 3bet pot with a set.

Originally posted by Kyyberi
You get fined in Finland for folding that. Easy call.

in solverland its a fold for 30bbs and lower
as finland is too cold anyway, im fine with just folding that preflop, due to the high rake on that limits. for my first argument