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[Closed] $1 Stt -ev push into my direct opponent

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Party Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600.00/t1200.00 Blinds - 4 players - View hand 1368039
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BB: t4320.00 3.60 BBs - VPIP: 16, PFR: 10, 3B: 3, AF: 1.7, Hands: 128
Hero (CO): t3125.00 2.60 BBs - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 4646
BTN: t4665.00 3.89 BBs - VPIP: 20, PFR: 5, 3B: 8, AF: Infinity, Hands: 41
SB: t7890.00 6.58 BBs - VPIP: 22, PFR: 22, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 41

Pre Flop: (t1800) Hero is CO with 9 :diamond: J :heart:
Hero raises to t3075, 2 folds, BB calls t1875

Flop: (t6750) 6 :spade: T :diamond: 5 :club: (2 players)

Turn: (t6750) T :heart: (2 players)

River: (t6750) 6 :heart: (2 players)

I pushed this pretty easy, I think i have quite enough FE and next hand i will be basically pot committed with absolutely no FE.

Any feedback much appreciated.


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Steelbrewer
Joined: 22.04.2009
Oldschool Grinder

If we give BB a calling range of ~ 25% instead of 32% suggested by NASH calc then this is still a -ev push. Looking forward for next hand you will have to call 100% of your range against a push.
So you're between a rock and a hard place and have to choose between
- ev push or a 100% call next hand. Unless table is known for giving short stacks walks I would prefer 1st option especially against 2nd short stack.


VBZg
Joined: 06.12.2009
Oldschool Grinder

preffer pushing here also


I think this is a fold. It is very common to overestimate the cost of hitting the blinds. I think you are doing that here to justify a bad push.

If you fold, and the bubble does not end this hand, then you will post more than 1/3 of your stack in the big blind. However, this does not mean you are pot-committed because it is the bubble. (Many players do not understand this, and I don't think you have that much folding equity if you push 2.6 bb this hand.) See the Nash equilibrium if we advance the stacks. According to the Nash calculator, posting the big blind costs about 3.3% of the prize pool. However, if you push and double up, you still have to post a blind. I think you should only make pushes which cost perhaps 2% of the prize pool when you adjust all of the ranges, and I think pushing J9o costs much more than that.

I'm not sure what ranges to give everyone in this hand, but with one set of ranges (13.6, 5.1, 4.8, 12.6, 5.2, 54, 12.2, 15.4, 3.9, 16.2, 65, 22.3), pushing J9o costs 2.57% of the prize pool, which makes this a fold at the -2.0% threshold. If you hold the other ranges constant, you need the BB to call tighter than about 43% to push, but I think the 54% is probably low.


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_Anonymous_

Yes thank you pzhon, after a few sngs where i ended up in this situation I found myself aware that pushing utg with almost no fold equity is quite bad!
I rather call looser in the blind against one player, rather than pushing and getting called and sometimes overcalled.
At the time it seemed rather standard but after analyzing it i don't like it at all.

Thanks for the feedback!


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007
Elite Grinder

Hi all,

Thanks pzhon! Yeah it seems like a close fold here just as a result of the extremely short stacksize we have and the consequent reduction of fold equity.


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