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$1,50 STT Turbo KK Early Game

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Luischiavo
Joined: 14.03.2016
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Poker Stars $1.32+$0.18 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds + t4 - 9 players - View hand 2914521

BB: t1477
UTG: t1574
UTG+1: t1544
UTG+2: t1447
MP1: t1087
MP2: t1804
CO: t1368
BTN: t1752
Hero (SB): t1447 M = 17.86

Pre Flop: (t81) Hero is SB with K :club: K :diamond:
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t90, 2 folds, CO calls t90, 1 fold, Hero raises to t270, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t180, 1 fold

Flop: (t696) J :heart: T :heart: 8 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets t450

Cbet and call shove?


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TomClassy
Joined: 06.05.2015
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Tough spot, but I would cbet shove here for sure even if he had a fd and a gutter coz you have more outs and your hand is too strong too fold.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
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I would 3bet more pre-flop against a 3x open and a call of the CO. I would 3bet around 360 out of position here. This way you get more value of your hand and then it’s less likely you will play multi ways as well.

As played I would bet a little bit less like 400 and fold on a shove. I don’t think you will be in good shape against his shoving range. He should shove 1 pair or worse here and that’s not to likely on a wet board like this and you have only 1 clean out if you aren’t against a flush already.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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TomClassy
Joined: 06.05.2015
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I have made recalculations and you are at best 54.41/43.39 underdog OTF but even with the risk premium you need about 30% to call after the cbet. SDK1987, how do we contend this logic?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
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I have not calculated it so far. I think it’s good if you show your own calculations here.
Than I can check if you did something wrong.


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TomClassy
Joined: 06.05.2015
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Preflop pot = 360+360+90+30+36= 876
Aften cbet and villvain shove flop pot = 876 + 400 + 1083+ 683 and our remaining stack is 683 so we get 683/3042 or 1/4.3 - required equity for cEV=0 and plus 4.8% risk premium 829/3042 or 1/3.7 and our equity against his range

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is 1/2.8


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
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It sounds good, but if the pot is that big with than 1.083 chips remaining a 400 bet would be too big and then you are committed as well. Then I would bet 300-350 and fold to a shove.


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