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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010
Oldschool Grinder

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $30(BB) Replayer
($1,320)
Hero ($1,680)

Dealt to Hero Q♥ 6♠

Hero raises to $60, calls $30

FLOP ($120) 8♦ 5♦ 6♥

checks, Hero bets $60, raises to $150, Hero calls $90

TURN ($420) 8♦ 5♦ 6♥ 7♦

checks, Hero bets $180, raises to $465, Hero folds

wins $780

Villain is some sort of a reg, opens wide, aggro pre and post also. 3bets 33%, flats 38% from the BB.

On the flop, I am not sure what's the best move. For one thing he can re-raise a lot of flops here with draws, but he can also 3bet pre a polarized range with his low suited cards and his strong holdings, maybe he flats with his broadway, J8-9. Q7s type of hands. Meaning the flop misses him often-I don't know.

If we check-we scream what hand we have(either weak SD or giving up) + the board is so wet, it's gonna be damn hard to call a good combo of turn/river cards.

After his c/r, he can be on a draw, 8x obviously, I totally exclude overpairs and 88 from his range with him 3betting 33%.

If we flat- J is not a great card, I am not sure if he's got any suited low Axs here, Q-K I think I am gonna call once again if he fires.

Anyway-on the turn, once he checks, I think there is a good chance he folds his 8x, maybe other 6xs that he re-raised and he doesn't wanna c/c flop and give away the strength of his hand. So, to me, there is no need to bet big on this card. He either has it or fold everything that's not a straight or a flush.

Do you reckon he double barrel his straights here instead of c/shoving an isolating himself vs flushes only?

What's the best way to play the hand and sry for the long post.


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yoshiwa
Joined: 23.02.2009
Elite Grinder

I rather have ppl posting long posts and thinking about stuff than just dumping their hands:)

I agree if we check back our hand is abit faceup.
But i think betting here is completely out of the question. This because either we bet-fold , or we have to 3bet. Calling vs a chr is borderline suicide , since then our hand is as obvious as it gets. If we 3bet we will filter out alot of his blufs , while if he goes allin with a wide range , we only will flip prob.

So I would advocate checking back , and then just calling it off 2 times.
This because 1)its way cheaper (calling 2 times a 3/4 bet costs 80+210=290 chips) and 2) we always see the showdown.
He might bluf only once , and some cards were still able to fold on(i think this T would be such a card).

bet-calling the Flop makes no sense at all , because all the hands we will see a showdown against will beat us , and all the draws will bet us off our hands. So the only way we can bet the F is if we know he is chr sooo wide that we have a profitable bet-3bet , but i'd say ch f , call T call R makes him bluf more , and we can still fold on some T/R.


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