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22$; 10man; bb400, TT, ITM, vs a stop'n'go on KJ7 flop

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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009
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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $400(BB) Replayer
SB ($9,830)
BB ($3,330)
Hero ($6,840)

Dealt to Hero T♠ T♥

Hero raises to $800, fold, BB calls $400

FLOP ($1,800) J♣ K♠ 7♠

BB bets $2,530 (AI), Hero folds

BB wins $1,800

unknown, 27/9/inf/11, filtered for ITM, 3bet 17% (6) (i know for this stat its not a sample, but at least it shows that he seems to have a 3betting range)

anybody calling? In game i almost snap folded but now when i think abt it i dont really know whether that was a good decision. The problem is that i really struggle to put him on any kind of range..
Some numbers for a better feel of the situation - we're getting 37% odds, we need 39% (ICM Explorer).

- can we really assume unknowns heard abt a stop'n'go??? if yes than its a snap call

- if the answer is no than what kind of range would you put him on? he seems to have a 3bet range so i would discard all the decent Ax (A8+) and all the decent pairs (77+) and assume he calls pre with broadways, low pockets and some suited connectors. Now what is his donk shoving flop range gonna be? I think he will do it with all 7x, all Jx (except KJ), KT-, straight draws and flush draws. Against that range we have 53% equity, so it looks like a super easy call. However i'm not really convinced abt it since, as ive said, i have no idea what he's range gonna be tbh. The bright side is that even when i gave him a 0% 3betting range and included all monsters in his flop shoving range i'm still getting 44% equity, so maybe it is a very easy call regardless of his range in fact


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kevvu
Joined: 11.05.2008
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Hey,
He still has over pot size bet. Not sure, does he do it with 7x, how many 7x hands he has even his callind range. IMO for me it looks a lot more a fold than a call. I dont think we are often ahead, usually we are pretty much drawing dead or really thin.
kevvu


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its a simple pot odds decision vs his range. you have to decide exactly how many draws he is doing this with. IMO he has both pairs and draws in his range so getting 39% I think we have to call even if we give him a few flush draws and straight draws.


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