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$7 turbo 6max: iso or flat with QQ?

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Poker Stars, $6.48 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players

SB: 428 (8.6 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,073 (21.5 bb)
MP: 2,262 (45.2 bb)
CO: 1,989 (39.8 bb)
BTN: 3,248 (65 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
MP calls 50, 2 folds, SB raises to 428 and is all-in, Hero calls 378, MP calls 378

Flop: (1,284) K A 2 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
Hero checks, MP bets 1,834 and is all-in, Hero folds

Turn: (1,284) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (1,284) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

1,284 pot
Final Board: K A 2 5 2
SB showed 4 4 and lost (-428 net)
Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-428 net)
MP showed J A and won 1,284 (856 net)

Hijack is 37/5 from 666 hands with 35% open-limp.
What about pre? I wanted to keep the passive limper in if possible, but am I better off isoing?
As played, I check/folded since there's almost certainly an ace or king in the main pot and I haven't entered the side pot yet. I was hoping the passive player would check down weaker Ax, Kx and give me a chance to draw. Thanks.


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WANTEDXXX1
Joined: 02.03.2011
PokerStrategist

We are too short for playing postflop. Shove I think is the best option.
We will see so much crappy flops Axx, Kxx. Great fold.


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capsize101
Joined: 15.07.2010
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I`d also shove pre against a 37/5 opp. Most certainly he`d always raise JJ+ and limp a wide range you are ahead against. I think you`ll get some bad calls from a player like this with broadway combos and the shove is maxEV in such situations.
If he does not hit the flop he will most likely fold to a cbet or x/c and fold the turn. That`s not worth the risk, tho I can understand your intention with the call.


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010
Oldschool Grinder

Hi, guys!

I have to disagree with some of things posted. For one thing 37/5 is the type of guy to limp JJ+. So his range has monsters and hands we crush in it. Monsters won't fold to a shove anyway, so we don't get value from those. Hands we crush, however, might come in for a good price as the guy is fishy as hell. So question is how QQ plays OOP vs his range. I think it plays great. Most flops won't have A or K( I believe like 58-59%), so that makes our job super easy. For the ones that do, it's not the end of the world, it doesn't mean everytime there is an A or K it hit him.

With all that being said, if you wanna go max value, you gotta know how to get it. We have around 1/2 pot or so on the flop. How do we fold? The flop is as bad as it gets. I still c/c though, hoping he bluffs. I can't really fold that short. If it would be for 1 pot size bet or more, I will c/f this board prolly.


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Thanks a lot for all the comments. kurrkabin, yes you're right I'm not paying enough attention to low SPR again. I guess at higher buyins even this fish would be bluffing more often but I had to trust my read that he was face up in this instance.
p.s. I spotted you at the tables for once as I'm mixing buyins now. :f_cool:


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010
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Originally posted by grayarea
Thanks a lot for all the comments. kurrkabin, yes you're right I'm not paying enough attention to low SPR again. I guess at higher buyins even this fish would be bluffing more often but I had to trust my read that he was face up in this instance.
p.s. I spotted you at the tables for once as I'm mixing buyins now. :f_cool:

Nice! Say hi next time, maybe I fold AA/KK/QQ bvb couple of times to show manners :P


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Originally posted by kurrkabin
Nice! Say hi next time, maybe I fold AA/KK/QQ bvb couple of times to show manners :P

That would only be fair since you know all about my many weaknesses. :f_biggrin:


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