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herekPL

Joined: 13.05.2007

Posts: 849

09.06.2011, 14:49 0

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (7 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 (t1395)
Hero (MP2) (t2570)
CO (t1370)
Button (t2015)
SB (t1930)
BB (t1890)
UTG (t2330)

Hero's M: 17.13

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 10, 10
UTG bets t210, 1 fold, Hero raises to t630, 5 folds

Total pot: t570

Przeciwnik 17/13/4 52h (. 3bet/fold?

6,5$ game

This is not my hand. I've been arguing with my friend that 3Bet/fold is a leak here, cause if you do that TT=32o.
I prefer fold>call>>3Bet/fold

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akrammon

Joined: 17.05.2009

Posts: 2,878

09.06.2011, 15:56 0

Agreed. 3bet/fold turns it into a bluff. But I prefer call to fold. 3bet/fold is the worst line with TT imo.

Why I prefer call, well, depends a lot on how villain acts postflop, but this is not a strictly setmining scenario, TT is strong and we should be able to get a few pots without hitting a set.

:club: akrammon's midstakes STTs :club:

Gavron23

Joined: 26.05.2010

Posts: 2,727

09.06.2011, 16:03 0

Yeah 3bet folding is pretty much awfull IMO

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_Anonymous_

09.06.2011, 17:07 0

I think 3betting makes more sense from sb or bb, because here we will have position anyway (given noone reraises behind us).

So i like the call more and evaluate the flop. The problem with him calling our 3bet is that we will easily go broke with a second best hand on the flop, because a standard cbet will make us pot committed.

On the other hand, i think folding TT here preflop seems to be a bit weak...

pokerski

Joined: 05.05.2010

Posts: 857

10.06.2011, 02:01 0

Call seems the best option as it is a minraise.

_Anonymous_

10.06.2011, 15:36 0

Shove > 3-bet call > call > fold > 3-bet fold.

With five guys behind you I hate calling, you have 23 blinds effective you can shove here unless UTG is total nit.

herekPL Topic starter

Joined: 13.05.2007

Posts: 849

12.06.2011, 11:01 0

Not too deep 4 shoving vs UTG range?

_Anonymous_

12.06.2011, 12:12 0

Originally posted by herekPL
Not too deep 4 shoving vs UTG range?

only 23 effective. its fine

_Anonymous_

12.06.2011, 12:12 0

Originally posted by herekPL
Not too deep 4 shoving vs UTG range?

only 23 effective. its fine

_Anonymous_

12.06.2011, 12:12 0

Originally posted by herekPL
Not too deep 4 shoving vs UTG range?

only 23 effective. its fine

herekPL Topic starter

Joined: 13.05.2007

Posts: 849

13.06.2011, 10:23 0

Originally posted by faarcyde
Shove > 3-bet call > call > fold > 3-bet fold.

Disagree with this.
You need 43% equity to call push after 3Bet.

Board:
Dead:

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 33,654% 33,452% 0,403% 66,145% TT
Player 2: 66,346% 66,145% 0,403% 33,452% JJ+, AKs, AKo