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[Closed] ATs: Wrong fold?

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kiromanAAKK
Joined: 08.10.2009

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0 Tournament, 30/60 Blinds (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG+1 (t930)
MP1 (t3950)
MP2 (t5070)
CO (t1495)
Button (t820)
SB (t815)
BB (t1030)
Hero (UTG) (t1590)

Hero's M: 17.67

After saw the showdown I felt that I have miss the play

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T♠, A♠
Hero bets t180, 1 fold, MP1 raises to t3950 (All-In), 4 folds, BB calls t970 (All-In), 1 fold

Flop: (t2270) A♣, 2♦, Q♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t2270) 9♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t2270) Q♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t2270
Main pot: t2270 between MP1 and BB, shared by MP1 and BB (t1135)

Results:
BB had 3♥, 3♦ (two pair, Queens and threes).
MP1 had 3♣, 3♠ (two pair, Queens and threes).
Outcome: BB won t1135, MP1 won t1135

Did I play wrong by fold this hand?
Thx :heart:


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

no i fold there too, even if no1 calls MP1 shove i'm folding


budzior
Joined: 26.02.2009

Standard fold.


Hi kiromanAAKK,

normally its a fold, cause vs. an MP-Overpush in conjunction with an BB Coldcall your Equity should be very low(the probability of a Hand AJ-AK or TT-AA is very high).

The call is only possible with loose reads.


bradomurder
Joined: 17.10.2008

isn't ATs an easy fold UTG preflop? or am i missing something?

as played easy fold, dont worry that they both showed down weak hands most players wouldn't shove or call there with 3s.


Hi bradomurder,

ATs isnt a easy fold UTG preflop generally:
The main parameter is the looseness of the table.
At a loose table I would also prefer the fold, cause the probabiltity of a reraise after hero is very high.
And if there is a reraise/push, the call with AT is often very difficult (and the fold is very expensive).
At a tight table you have a high fold equity on the contrary, cause the opponents would only reraise strong hands, especially vs. a UTG raise.
And you would also have a easier fold vs. a reraise at a tighter table.

So all in all ATs is not necessarily a UTG-Raise but often possible!


akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009

I fold to an allin with that hand, I wouldn't even raise it from UTG. If its a limping table with high implied odds, I limp it for a possible flushdraw. Or maybe not. Maybe just a simple openfold.


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