QQ, villain c/c c/c c/shove?

its a b/f river vs any thinking player,since you can extract from Jx but you are beaten as soon as you get raised.

Hi,

You mostly see 33/55. I think b/f river is fine unless player seems really fishy and can possible shove river some Axs/pp-s hands that he decided to call flop, turn and now deciding that his hand has no showdown value

bets regards,

22$ huge field MTT

agree that most villains will ch/r turn with sets most of the times and lead river with boat most of the time
with those assumption i dont think he has 55 very often i think his range looks like this

33*/JJ*/TT*/KQhh/98hh/AJs/KK-AA**/JT (imo this is reasonable range)
* only one combo of each, total 3
**lets give 2 combos each, total 4

when all that said and considering his line preflop

imo he has like 21 hand combos when he ch/rAI river -> u beat like 14 of them ~65-70%

a dont think that checking back on river is good as played so i bet call river expecting to get value from his overplaying AJs(3x)/JT(9x) and some % of random bluffs if he has me beat well played

i realy dont think that he is that good and thinking player to limp/call ch/c ch/c ch/raI to get max value from induced bluffs and take value from over pairs with boats and i think is more likely that he has AJ/JT then 33/TT/JJ/55

in 22$ mtt i think he can show up even with smth like 67hh or smth like that #ivseenitall

I disagree that a $22 is gonna bluff KQ,98 or even JT. I do not see b/c as a profitable play here.

If u say so..gf then

Hint: They dont bluff when they shove JT/AJ and I add KQhh/98h cos every one have some blufing hands in their range

Thanks guys,

Wish I'd have called now to settle it but suppose these are situations we face regularly and just have to learn from them.

Hi all,

This is not a situation you see regularly. Fold in these spots and be glad very few people bluff in this spot.

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

This is not a situation you see regularly. Fold in these spots and be glad very few people bluff in this spot.

chenny u dont think that unknow will take villain line with AJ/JT???

Hi all,

Originally posted by TheRebuz

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

This is not a situation you see regularly. Fold in these spots and be glad very few people bluff in this spot.

chenny u dont think that unknow will take villain line with AJ/JT???

I honestly do not think this. Maybe at most 1/4 of the time they will overplay JT this badly, and maybe 1/10 of the time AJ. It will certainly happen. But overplays are generally not on the river.

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

Originally posted by TheRebuz

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

This is not a situation you see regularly. Fold in these spots and be glad very few people bluff in this spot.

chenny u dont think that unknow will take villain line with AJ/JT???

I honestly do not think this. Maybe at most 1/4 of the time they will overplay JT this badly, and maybe 1/10 of the time AJ. It will certainly happen. But overplays are generally not on the river.

so what r u putting villain on?

Hi all,

TT/33, sometimes JJ. Just not enough bluffs, basically.