Originally posted by Eggie6
sure, here's the graph to make it more clear 

iPoker - €0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 67.2 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 40 BB (VPIP: 38.10, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
CO: 103.4 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BTN: 142.8 BB (VPIP: 23.41, PFR: 18.41, 3Bet Preflop: 6.86, Hands: 457)
SB: 117.8 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8♣ 8♠
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 5 BB
Flop: (16.4 BB, 2 players) T♣ 4♦ 4♥
BB bets 8.2 BB, Hero calls 8.2 BB
Turn: (32.8 BB, 2 players) 5♥
BB bets 16.4 BB, Hero calls 16.4 BB
River: (65.6 BB, 2 players) A♣
BB bets 33 BB, Hero calls 33 BB
BB shows Q♥ A♠ (Two Pair, Aces and Fours) (Pre 45%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)
Hero mucks 8♣ 8♠ (Two Pair, Eights and Fours) (Pre 55%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
BB wins 123 BB
This is bothering me ♦
should i have folded earlier?
PF - I don't like the call here, you are OOP against a relative unknown player. Are we calling to set mine? If so, we don't have right odds to be profitable, and we have to fold to c/f every flop with a face card on it
Flop - I think you either need to b/f here, or check-raise. The problem with just calling here is that every overcard is a scare card for us, so we are going to have to fold on about 20 - 23 cards (almost 50% of turn cards). If we just flat call, we have literally no idea where our hand stands against villain
Turn - given we have called flop and it is blank, pretty nothing card so if we have decided our 8s are good...
River - I think we have to fold here, so many hands are beating us, including PPs 99 - AA (which all could have 3bet PF), and any AT+ that would also have 3bet pre
I think in this case villain has a range of:
99+, KQ, AT+
Not currently at a PC with equilab on it, but would be good to check your expected equity here
Our expected result is either losing 33BB, or winning 98.6BB
So we need to win x% of the time we call here to break even
x*98.6 = (1-x)*33
x=0.25
Breakeven equity = 25%
Given the only hand we beat in the range is KQ (maybe KJ is we extend it to that), I would guess that we have less than 25% equity. But if you check in equilab you can find out what equity we really have
EDIT:
Have tried to manually calc it, and I think we might actually have above breakeven equity from the range above (if we include KJ & KQ as 3-barrell bluffs, but that may be very optimistic)
From the range given, villain has a range of 102 combos - we beat 32 of them.
32/102 = 31.3%
So in the best case scenario, we have slightly above breakeven equity.
If we exclude KJ and assume villain only 3-barrels KQ as bluff and rest is value from our initial range, we now only beat 16 of 86 combos - equity of 18.6%
I guess it all depends on your perception of villain, are they even capable of 3-barrel bluffs? Can we take exclude any bluff hands, but add to their range any PPs worse than ours?
I guess you just need to play around with the possibilities to find out if you think it was a profitable call or not
Personally I don't think it was