Originally posted by thejugador
just received one of the "damaged" books,and I think the damage is a small white speck on the cover,Im not really sure.its a great book also,I can see its going to help,Im looking forward to when Im not a mental game fish!
That is the damage - there were some printing errors with the covers. Purely aesthetic. Great to hear you're enjoying it so far!
Originally posted by THESHade
Hi,
had a "little" blog update and part of the post was me thinking about my "RL leaks"
If u feel like it, feel free to resposne w some of ur thoughts or a feeelign that u got from my post
ThnxOriginally posted by THESHade
I am too chaotic and its super-hard for me to stick to one thing
I have a passion for everything, srsly ... (ok, almost) I would liek to know everything and know a lot about it and be one of the best in it ...
Thing is, its impossible IMO .
It applies to poker as well
My goals colide (poker goals and RLvsPoker goals)
-I want to be best at every game possible.... I wanna be ebst at every format...
-> Its hard for me to stick to one game and format and rly improve at it cause then I get a strong passion for other game/fromat and its ahrd to continue playing the format I was playing but if I change it rly slows my progress (tried it...)
-its not my goal to make a lot of money at poker but I get annoyed a bit when some bumhunter moves up/earned more and people thinks he did smth special or how good he is and that its hard to achieve
-I want to live a balanced life and by doing that it also slows my poker progress a bit
-I awlays wanna try new things
-if I know smbdy personally and I know he is better at something than me I want to just prove a point that its not hard at all and beat him (that relates to 2nd point)
Lets take an example- lets say I would be going out rollerblading with a buddy and he would have stronger stamina and was faster ... I would try rly hard to beat him and owuld work a lot harder and train harder and more
if I dont have smbdy to "compete with" I do a LOOT less (so if smbdy out there feels like competing w me lemme know- challenges FTW)
-I am shy
-I find it super-hard to ask people for a help cause I take it as a personal defeat even if it is smth like feeling sick or any trivial thing or lets say if I wanna do a sweat seassion w smbdy, nope, I wont ask ♦ I will just wait for a time that person asks me to sweat him ♦I think thats enough RL leaks for today (ofc I have moaaaaaar)
Interesting and revealing post. Here's what came to mind reading it:
Logically you know you can't be the best, but you still want it. There's a huge gap. Deep down you believe it's possible to be the best at everything, every game, etc...but the question is: why do you want to be the best at everything?
I believe the answer to that is an important bit of detail that will help you to bridge the gap between what you know to be true (impossible) and what you want/wish were true.
Jared, I have this form of tilt which is like this:
Sometimes I find (pretty often actually) I´m playing someone who has some sort of weird style/strategy and it tends to tilt me when I can´t seem to understand/counter what they´re doing.
It tends to tilt even more when I´m running bad against such villain. It´s not monkey tilt or anything,I never get that, but this kind of tilt which prevents me from thinking very well and feeling finer details. Sometimes I lose control and go too agressive, especially after many flops without making any hand comfortable to play.
I don´t know for sure what do to, I wish I wouldn´t get tilted for this reason.
I have the book, so you can recommend something in the tilt section.
Originally posted by JaredTendler
Interesting and revealing post. Here's what came to mind reading it:
Logically you know you can't be the best, but you still want it. There's a huge gap. Deep down you believe it's possible to be the best at everything, every game, etc...but the question is: why do you want to be the best at everything?
I believe the answer to that is an important bit of detail that will help you to bridge the gap between what you know to be true (impossible) and what you want/wish were true.
Will think about the root of that mentality 
I can think of few straight away
Let me know if u wanna hear what I come up with
Originally posted by suaveplayer
Jared, I have this form of tilt which is like this:Sometimes I find (pretty often actually) I´m playing someone who has some sort of weird style/strategy and it tends to tilt me when I can´t seem to understand/counter what they´re doing.
It tends to tilt even more when I´m running bad against such villain. It´s not monkey tilt or anything,I never get that, but this kind of tilt which prevents me from thinking very well and feeling finer details. Sometimes I lose control and go too agressive, especially after many flops without making any hand comfortable to play.
I don´t know for sure what do to, I wish I wouldn´t get tilted for this reason.
I have the book, so you can recommend something in the tilt section.
Sorry for the delay getting back to you, been very busy at the WSOP.
That's great you have the book, makes this easier:) Check out page 24-25. Niman's story. In there he talks about a conversation that we had because he was having the same problem. The basic idea being that you're getting pissed off because the villain is targeting your weaknesses.
Sure it sucks to have them exposed against a player doing some non standard stuff, but you've seen that it's a lot worse to have that turn into bigger problems. Plus, this kind of anger makes it harder for you to learn - because in a way, you're expecting/wishing that it wasn't a problem, rather than doing the work to figure out how to exploit them. Have you?
Check out the Mistake Tilt section - Expecting Perfection. Lastly, read chapter 2, and possible the confidence section. Is it possible that part of the reason that you get angry is that your confidence takes a hit by being in spots where you don't know what to do?
This help?
Originally posted by THESHade
Originally posted by JaredTendler
Interesting and revealing post. Here's what came to mind reading it:
Logically you know you can't be the best, but you still want it. There's a huge gap. Deep down you believe it's possible to be the best at everything, every game, etc...but the question is: why do you want to be the best at everything?
I believe the answer to that is an important bit of detail that will help you to bridge the gap between what you know to be true (impossible) and what you want/wish were true.
Will think about the root of that mentality
Let me know if u wanna hear what I come up with
Definitely. Fire away.
Need some Jared help
I went to Vegas, played 15 sessions and had 13 winning sessions, one of losing sessions was literally one hand.
The two tournaments I played, 1) I went into the money with the chiplead. 1/50, I ended up coming 45th after losing 5 60/40's and 1 80/20.
I went to Brighton and came 10th in an event for 30% of the chips in play and gauranteed top 3. I then lost over 5k worth of pots where I had at least 50% equity, 80%+ in some of the pots.
I have played online and although I've only ran 4bi's below EV, I've ran terribly in terms of coolers/set ups and just rwally havn't enjoyed the "online grind" at all after being a "live pro" for a few weeks.
I am now going back to Gibraltar after using all my holidays for the year which I could and now I'm thinking should have used for myself and my gf to go away and now I'm thinking that poker just isn't worth it anymore. I am playing really good but just run bad in the big comps, I work full time so will never play enough of these tournaments to justify the variance and although I really do understand variance well I think I genuinely run terribly.
I have almost given up on the "big score" and have enough money IRL to not worry about having to play poker for spending money/pocket money. I know I'm good enough to beat decent stakes so the challenge of that has kinda gone too.
If I don't decide to play full time is this just the end of poker for me?
Originally posted by pleno1
Need some Jared help
I went to Vegas, played 15 sessions and had 13 winning sessions, one of losing sessions was literally one hand.The two tournaments I played, 1) I went into the money with the chiplead. 1/50, I ended up coming 45th after losing 5 60/40's and 1 80/20.
I went to Brighton and came 10th in an event for 30% of the chips in play and gauranteed top 3. I then lost over 5k worth of pots where I had at least 50% equity, 80%+ in some of the pots.
I have played online and although I've only ran 4bi's below EV, I've ran terribly in terms of coolers/set ups and just rwally havn't enjoyed the "online grind" at all after being a "live pro" for a few weeks.
I am now going back to Gibraltar after using all my holidays for the year which I could and now I'm thinking should have used for myself and my gf to go away and now I'm thinking that poker just isn't worth it anymore. I am playing really good but just run bad in the big comps, I work full time so will never play enough of these tournaments to justify the variance and although I really do understand variance well I think I genuinely run terribly.
I have almost given up on the "big score" and have enough money IRL to not worry about having to play poker for spending money/pocket money. I know I'm good enough to beat decent stakes so the challenge of that has kinda gone too.
If I don't decide to play full time is this just the end of poker for me?
Hey Plano, happy to help as always
Question for you first though, that will help me to put this issue into context. Why now, are you questioning whether or not to play full time?
If you decide not to play full time right now, that also doesn't mean that it's the end of poker for you. Many players, in poker and in a lot of sports/games, take breaks. Eastgate did it for 8 months - you could do it for a few months and see how it feels. There's no reason to make a big decision after having such a rough stretch, because your opinion is most certainly going to be overwhelming weighted because of the run of bad luck that you've had.
One thing that this may highlight, is a flaw that may be contributing to this perspective, is an lack of recognition for positive variance when it happens. This form of Injustice Tilt often happens, when winning or doing well becomes expected - ie. AA holding up over KK, etc. So there becomes a little less enjoyment over winning. That loss of enjoyment accumulates, and when negatives happen, it makes the negatives feel even bigger. The reason being that you haven't had enough enjoyment from winning and playing well that's deserved, and it doesn't balance out the feeling around losing.
I know it's been a week since you posted. Are you feeling any different from when you first posted?
A little, I've put in a few big sessions (ran bad ldo :P) but kind of enjoyed playing still.
In a coaching group now with 4 others who all have 1m+ in tournament winnigns so I am enjoying learning/olayign and watching them too.
Thanks for coming back though Jared!
Hello Jared,
I haven´t read through the whole thread, so I don´t know whether a similar question haven´t beed asked already. I will read the whole content tomorrow.
I play HU sngs. When I run bad (I lose several games due to the variance, eg. I know I´ve done everything correctly or at least I haven´t made any big mistakes but I still lose (some kind of flip, cooler, setup, w/e) ) I tend to want to fight the regs, or at least solid thinking players. I feel the temptation to go onto higher limits and sit some big winner there (I luckily don´t do that). But the intention of fighting the regs remains.
I think this could be an ego problem or something like that. I would like to have deeper insight into this problem. I am naturally a guy who doesn´t like losing and I am quite a hothead. It seems I have to "prove" to myself I am better than those players, that I can outthink them in the game ...
What do you think ?
Originally posted by pleno1
A little, I've put in a few big sessions (ran bad ldo :P) but kind of enjoyed playing still.In a coaching group now with 4 others who all have 1m+ in tournament winnigns so I am enjoying learning/olayign and watching them too.
Thanks for coming back though Jared!
Great to hear you're back, and enjoying the game. Learning is a big key to keeping the game fresh, so it doesn't surprise me that's helping.
Very cool ♦
Originally posted by acceleration123
Hello Jared,I haven´t read through the whole thread, so I don´t know whether a similar question haven´t beed asked already. I will read the whole content tomorrow.
I play HU sngs. When I run bad (I lose several games due to the variance, eg. I know I´ve done everything correctly or at least I haven´t made any big mistakes but I still lose (some kind of flip, cooler, setup, w/e) ) I tend to want to fight the regs, or at least solid thinking players. I feel the temptation to go onto higher limits and sit some big winner there (I luckily don´t do that). But the intention of fighting the regs remains.
I think this could be an ego problem or something like that. I would like to have deeper insight into this problem. I am naturally a guy who doesn´t like losing and I am quite a hothead. It seems I have to "prove" to myself I am better than those players, that I can outthink them in the game ...
What do you think ?
The first thing that comes to mind is that losing hurts your confidence, and with you confidence down, winning - especially against tough opponents is how you prove that you still can play that well.
As you said, though, this happens in reaction to losses that seem like pure variance. On a logical level, I'm sure you understand the realities of variance well. When you lose there's naturally going to be some negative feeling/frustration because of how competitive you are, and I wonder if the anger builds rapidly with each loss because you lose that knowledge of variance. In essence, you're too results-oriented. With your confidence tied too much to results in the short-term, your naturally going to fight to protect your confidence.
Which means, the solution is two-fold:
1) You have to work harder to remind yourself after the first loss, that the loss was due to variance, not you. Now, if you can't prove that immediately in the moment, then you can't spot variance well enough in real time and you have to improve that skill.
2) You have to work harder to remain focused on the only thing that you ultimately control in the short-term, the quality of your decision making. Not, if you can't prove to yourself in real time that you played well, then you have to improve that skill as well.
These two skills - recognizing the quality of your skill & recognizing variance - are critical to providing stability for your mind when losing, but playing well enough to remain confident.
Make sense? Help? Feel free to add more details/comments if there's something I've missed.
Originally posted by JaredTendler
The first thing that comes to mind is that losing hurts your confidence, and with you confidence down, winning - especially against tough opponents is how you prove that you still can play that well.As you said, though, this happens in reaction to losses that seem like pure variance. On a logical level, I'm sure you understand the realities of variance well. When you lose there's naturally going to be some negative feeling/frustration because of how competitive you are, and I wonder if the anger builds rapidly with each loss because you lose that knowledge of variance. In essence, you're too results-oriented. With your confidence tied too much to results in the short-term, your naturally going to fight to protect your confidence.
Which means, the solution is two-fold:
1) You have to work harder to remind yourself after the first loss, that the loss was due to variance, not you. Now, if you can't prove that immediately in the moment, then you can't spot variance well enough in real time and you have to improve that skill.
2) You have to work harder to remain focused on the only thing that you ultimately control in the short-term, the quality of your decision making. Not, if you can't prove to yourself in real time that you played well, then you have to improve that skill as well.
These two skills - recognizing the quality of your skill & recognizing variance - are critical to providing stability for your mind when losing, but playing well enough to remain confident.
Make sense? Help? Feel free to add more details/comments if there's something I've missed.
Thank you for a fantastic insight !
Ye, it sounds quite probable, as you mentioned I have to protect my confidence.
When I run bad I sometimes feel very down and badly whereas when I run good I feel (sometimes) invincible and very good.
I wouldn´t say I live poker (although I grind quite a lot), but I have other hobbies/ I do sports as well. But it kind of seems to me that doing fine in poker is the way I define my value (my self-esteem), I mean on some subconcious level ? I mean, I am not a non-life kid just having a computer life, I have a lot of friends and I enjoy partying, going out, girls and stuff and when I am for example on vacation I am able not to give poker a thought during the whole time.
But from my early teens I always used to be the kind of guy, who wanted to achieve something big in life, I always wanted not to be just average and live an average life and I´ve tried a few different ways to do that. Then I discovered poker and decided this will be the way I´ll achieve something and will get the freedom (time, financial) I want in my life. So it could be the case, that when I am running bad, I am feeling like not achieving my goals I laid out and thus it takes away my confidence. Because I´ve subconciously defined poker to be the way I´m gonna achieve what I want. Sounds reasonably ?
So it seems I am definitely way too much results-oriented.
About the point one you wrote as a solution - Ye, I agree. I sometimes find in a spot where I wonder if I should´ve played differently and if I think I´ve played ok but I am not absolutely sure, it kinda confuses me and I believe it can be a small tilt trigger for me sometimes. Whereas if there is a spot that I know is absolutely standard and my opponent just finds a big hand I am able to tell myself: Ok, nothing unusual, he just got lucky, standard and continue playing my A game.
Hey Jared,
I play poker from 4 months, after the first 3 months I lost my starting BR on Pokerstar 50$, so I begun to study on pokerstrategy, got the starting free 50$ BR on Full tilt and it closed..
So I went back on pokerstar and from 0$ starting with freeroll arrived at first at 3$, then with 0,10$ tournaments to 10$, then 0,25$.... Now I have 49$ and
I play tournaments buy in-50 cents 90 players.
I have a lot of problem with this hand.
It happen ofthen, I have a medium straight hand, es:A9o
Big blind, none raise, 3 limps.
flop 3A9- 2 spade. I raise 70% pot.
Here I usually get a re-raise, most of the time it's an all-in.
I know that in this micro buy in many players has max top pair, and many times, lets say 6/10, they have flash draws. Many times they don't even have a pair nor a draw.
Now if my read is good I should be glad to go all in against someone that has at best 36% win agaist me.
Well, I'm not! Every single time they get the card they need, sometimes they get runner runner.
In this occasion he went all in on the flop with k2 spade. He got the spade on the river.
I know it can happen once every 3 times, but for me with this hand(top 2 pair) it's at least 2,5 every 3!
And I find it incredibly hard to fold with top 2 agaist some1 I'm sure, or quite, that he has just a draw.
If I get suck out from a random j8o against my AA preflop I still get angry, but I know I didn't have much choise.
Is it the same situation here?
Or I could play the hand in a different way?
I fill a bit dumb here, I guess because it's after the flop so I have more information but is the information itself that brings me to call knowing that I'm the favorite!
Every time I have a good read, I call having the better hand and I get beat
I find it impossible don't get upset and keep thinking about the hand and what I should have done different!
And this of course effect my game because I need to take some time before to get back on play!
It does happen only if I get out of the tournament, like that, not if I get a beat beat but I still have stack.
And would this be amplifield in live tournaments?
I would love to have a coach that could training me, overall of course, but especially on my mindset!
I hear often good players do coach many beginers, how could I get this possibility?
Thanks
Have fun
Marcello
Hey Jared.First of all,i have found this section extremely helpful and love reading your insight into peoples problems.What i can see primarily is that you have a fantastic mindset which is the opposite for me in alot of ways.
One of my main problems is i hate losing and cant stand when i play for hours where i can't seem to win a hand.This is where i have to work on my patience i know.
The other i have is confirmation bias which i seem to can't get out of my mind.Examples include the withdrawing of money i tend to go on downswings and massive tilt after that.The other examples are when multi tabling i either seem to do well at every table or the opposite and do badly at every table.I don't put this down to my play though im sure you will say otherwise.Alot have got to do with coolers,losing flips etc.
Im just wondering is this normal for poker players to "suffer" from confirmation bias and in your opinion how much roughly is mindset important to a poker player percentage wise do you reckon.
Thanks,
Ian.
Originally posted by acceleration123
Originally posted by JaredTendler
The first thing that comes to mind is that losing hurts your confidence, and with you confidence down, winning - especially against tough opponents is how you prove that you still can play that well.As you said, though, this happens in reaction to losses that seem like pure variance. On a logical level, I'm sure you understand the realities of variance well. When you lose there's naturally going to be some negative feeling/frustration because of how competitive you are, and I wonder if the anger builds rapidly with each loss because you lose that knowledge of variance. In essence, you're too results-oriented. With your confidence tied too much to results in the short-term, your naturally going to fight to protect your confidence.
Which means, the solution is two-fold:
1) You have to work harder to remind yourself after the first loss, that the loss was due to variance, not you. Now, if you can't prove that immediately in the moment, then you can't spot variance well enough in real time and you have to improve that skill.
2) You have to work harder to remain focused on the only thing that you ultimately control in the short-term, the quality of your decision making. Not, if you can't prove to yourself in real time that you played well, then you have to improve that skill as well.
These two skills - recognizing the quality of your skill & recognizing variance - are critical to providing stability for your mind when losing, but playing well enough to remain confident.
Make sense? Help? Feel free to add more details/comments if there's something I've missed.
Thank you for a fantastic insight !
Ye, it sounds quite probable, as you mentioned I have to protect my confidence.
When I run bad I sometimes feel very down and badly whereas when I run good I feel (sometimes) invincible and very good. Feeling invincible is a problem that sets you up for a confidence crash, because it's not real. You aren't invincible - no player is - and that overconfidence blinds you to the real ways that you need to be focusing on the action and on your own continual improvement.
I wouldn´t say I live poker (although I grind quite a lot), but I have other hobbies/ I do sports as well. But it kind of seems to me that doing fine in poker is the way I define my value (my self-esteem), I mean on some subconcious level ? I mean, I am not a non-life kid just having a computer life, I have a lot of friends and I enjoy partying, going out, girls and stuff and when I am for example on vacation I am able not to give poker a thought during the whole time.
But from my early teens I always used to be the kind of guy, who wanted to achieve something big in life, I always wanted not to be just average and live an average life and I´ve tried a few different ways to do that. Then I discovered poker and decided this will be the way I´ll achieve something and will get the freedom (time, financial) I want in my life. So it could be the case, that when I am running bad, I am feeling like not achieving my goals I laid out and thus it takes away my confidence. Because I´ve subconciously defined poker to be the way I´m gonna achieve what I want. Sounds reasonably ?
Sounds incredibly reasonable. When you put that much time, effort, and importance on something it's natural for your self-esteem to be based around it. The problem that you see now by being too results-oriented is that it causes great fluctuation in your self-esteem that aren't warranted really. Being able to create what I call "stable confidence" means that you organize your confidence/self-esteem around what you control in the short-term.
So it seems I am definitely way too much results-oriented.
About the point one you wrote as a solution - Ye, I agree. I sometimes find in a spot where I wonder if I should´ve played differently and if I think I´ve played ok but I am not absolutely sure, it kinda confuses me and I believe it can be a small tilt trigger for me sometimes. Whereas if there is a spot that I know is absolutely standard and my opponent just finds a big hand I am able to tell myself: Ok, nothing unusual, he just got lucky, standard and continue playing my A game.
Good insight. So, rather than getting overly concerned about a spot, that seem pretty marginal, you have to fight to remain steady and playing your best. Then, after the session you can properly analyze the hand, identify what there is to learn from it, and take that info into your next session. It's really a timing issue. You're allowing some confusion to make you play worse, rather than devoting energy to that spot away from the table when you can fully focus on it. In the middle of playing, you can't dissect a hand closely enough to move forward.
Part of the reason this confusion is allowed to thwart solid play is that it poses a threat to your confidence. Confusion is just a signal that you don't know something. On the road to living an above average life, if you don't face these situations A LOT, you'll never have the experience, nor the opportunity to improve your skills enough to actually make a life like that happen.
What do you think?
Originally posted by marcepoker17
Hey Jared,I play poker from 4 months, after the first 3 months I lost my starting BR on Pokerstar 50$, so I begun to study on pokerstrategy, got the starting free 50$ BR on Full tilt and it closed..
So I went back on pokerstar and from 0$ starting with freeroll arrived at first at 3$, then with 0,10$ tournaments to 10$, then 0,25$.... Now I have 49$ and
I play tournaments buy in-50 cents 90 players.
I have a lot of problem with this hand.
It happen ofthen, I have a medium straight hand, es:A9o
Big blind, none raise, 3 limps.
flop 3A9- 2 spade. I raise 70% pot.
Here I usually get a re-raise, most of the time it's an all-in.
I know that in this micro buy in many players has max top pair, and many times, lets say 6/10, they have flash draws. Many times they don't even have a pair nor a draw.
Now if my read is good I should be glad to go all in against someone that has at best 36% win agaist me.
Well, I'm not! Every single time they get the card they need, sometimes they get runner runner.
In this occasion he went all in on the flop with k2 spade. He got the spade on the river.
I know it can happen once every 3 times, but for me with this hand(top 2 pair) it's at least 2,5 every 3!
And I find it incredibly hard to fold with top 2 agaist some1 I'm sure, or quite, that he has just a draw.If I get suck out from a random j8o against my AA preflop I still get angry, but I know I didn't have much choise.
Is it the same situation here?
Or I could play the hand in a different way?I fill a bit dumb here, I guess because it's after the flop so I have more information but is the information itself that brings me to call knowing that I'm the favorite!
Every time I have a good read, I call having the better hand and I get beat
I find it impossible don't get upset and keep thinking about the hand and what I should have done different!
And this of course effect my game because I need to take some time before to get back on play!
It does happen only if I get out of the tournament, like that, not if I get a beat beat but I still have stack.And would this be amplifield in live tournaments?
I would love to have a coach that could training me, overall of course, but especially on my mindset!
I hear often good players do coach many beginers, how could I get this possibility?Thanks
Have fun
Marcello
Hi Marcello!
As a new player I strongly suggest you post your specific questions about how to play certain hands to some of the coaches, or other players here. Many of them have been through some of the exact situation you're in now, and can be of great help. By situation, I mean being a new player trying to wrap your head around variance and how that affects the quality of your decision making.
In addition, I strongly, strongly urge you to start studying variance. There are very few training videos/articles, etc about this topic, but I'd advise using a variance calculator so you can learn early on what the realities are with variance. It is a huge factor in short-term results, and if your game gets thrown off by it, your game can be thrown off in ways that you don't want - especially being new.
From what I read in your post, these two things I believe are having the greatest impact on your mental game. If you feel more confident about your decisions, and if you understand more about the realities of variance, you confidence and your mental game overall will be more stable. That may not be everything. The mental game evolves just as poker skill does, but for now, I'd start there. Although, if there's anything else that is a major mental game issue that you want to ask about feel free to.
Best,
Jared
Originally posted by 1984ioc
Hey Jared.First of all,i have found this section extremely helpful and love reading your insight into peoples problems.What i can see primarily is that you have a fantastic mindset which is the opposite for me in alot of ways.One of my main problems is i hate losing and cant stand when i play for hours where i can't seem to win a hand.This is where i have to work on my patience i know.
The other i have is confirmation bias which i seem to can't get out of my mind.Examples include the withdrawing of money i tend to go on downswings and massive tilt after that.The other examples are when multi tabling i either seem to do well at every table or the opposite and do badly at every table.I don't put this down to my play though im sure you will say otherwise.Alot have got to do with coolers,losing flips etc.
Im just wondering is this normal for poker players to "suffer" from confirmation bias and in your opinion how much roughly is mindset important to a poker player percentage wise do you reckon.
Thanks,
Ian.
Thanks Ian, good to hear you're getting a lot out of it.
First off, regarding losing: Why do you hate losing? When you say that you have to work on your patience - why is that? What happens when you're losing?
Confirmation bias is kind of like superstitions, so yes, it is common for poker players to fall into that trap. The big thing to keep in mind here is that as a poker player, you're trying to gain more and more control of the outcome. Rather than gaining control through increased poker or mental skill, players will latch onto something to help explain results. I can't say with absolute certainty that what you're saying isn't real, but the question is, is it causal. Does withdrawing money cause you to lose. If it affects you mindset and you play poorly than yes, if not, it's pure variance to date.
The importance of a solid mental game differs for each player depending on the severity of problems. Overall, I estimate it to be around 30-40% of the game, but player who blow bankrolls because of major tilt issues, it's 70-80% of the game at that time.
Post some more details and I'll help you break through this stuff.
Best,
Jared
Reading the book, more than half of it read allready, i love it.
Congratulations for your nice work and help!
Hey Jared,
Firstly I apologize if this question has already been asked....i went through the last few pages and dint find it so i shall ask:)
I had this problem of playing much longer when im losing and playing less when im winning....i had a stop loss limit but i always used to believe that im not on tilt although later on introspecting and analysing i knew that i was on tilt...understanding this i have been getting up everytime i reach my stop loss limit irrespective of how im feeling at that time..
but here's the other side which im still unable to solve....when im having a really good session, i get scared to play....im not too sure about the reason but i think its coz i get some cheap thrill out of having a really good day....and thinking about this is quite pissing off coz i know that to make a lot of money in poker i need to put in as much volume as possible and focus on long term results instead of good days,bad days etc...
so basically on a logical level i completely understand what im supposed to do (put in a good amount of volume being at the right mindset)...but right now wheneever i have a really good session, i get scared and hence know that im not at peak state and so just end up waiting for the next day to start my next session....
So please let me know how you think i can move past this challenge that im facing....thanks a lot for taking time out to help:)
