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I'm new to poker so my handhistories are under 10k and may be imported completely. Graph shows that I won about $100 over three weeks while the actual win is only $11. I can't narrow down search to specific hands, but I have written my own quick-and-dirty hand analyzer and it shows only $12 profit - nearly match ideal number.
I can provide full hand histories + my hand analyser (if it worths it - it is just a filter for USD and then anything that is not won - is spent) on first request


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galam
Joined: 06.03.2005

Feel free to mail me the Handhistories at galam@pokerstrategy.com, but if there a lot of hands it will be pretty difficult to find the error.


Mailed. You convinced me to do a thorough search and I have found myself what exactly is wrong. For PartyPoker at least elephant does not take into account Big Blinds. I've mailed you example hand. I lost big blind in that hand, but elephant shows '$0.00' for it. I'll not mail you other hands for now as may be that is just it. If calculation will be still incomplete in next version, I'll let you know again.


This bug is still present in 0.38. Also there is a new bug - I've played several freeroll tournaments recently and now elephant shows me space-high profit in these days (like $67K a day). These profits are not displayed on the chart though - the graph still goes up from zero to $120


6Wishmaster6
Joined: 16.01.2005

okay thanks! I reported your feedback to the devs. We work on this!


Didn't get better in 0.39. At opposite - it become worse. Now on the left (Days/months/Years) it still shows wrong number (I suppose it is wrong because it still doesn't count in BigBlinds that I've paid).
And on the right (chart) it draws a straight line - from zero to the said wrong number of bucks/BB. In other words - it now _always_ draws the chart as if I've played only one very profitable hand.
Also there is minor bug - if you right-click hand and chose to view source data - it shows couple of lines from next hand.
And finally another bug (new in 0.39) - it incorrectly shows the amount won. F.i. in this hand I won just $0.25 but elephant shows $0.72:
** Hand History for Game 6997837006 **
$25 USD NL Texas Hold`em - Wednesday, April 23, 12:40:27 ET 2008
Table Table 126386 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: emaxs ( $37.20 USD )
Seat 3: AS181181 ( $18.96 USD )
Seat 4: Radi0ActiveM ( $5.47 USD )
Seat 5: DabbelDamage ( $19.75 USD )
Seat 6: llany ( $14.20 USD )
Seat 7: derExperte ( $4.65 USD )
Seat 8: Cayun7 ( $45.15 USD )
Seat 10: eisdaxel ( $29.16 USD )
Seat 2: alne88 ( $5 USD )
Seat 9: TheDudeRoyal ( $5 USD )
emaxs posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
>You have options at Table 126912 Table!.
alne88 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to alne88 [ 6s 8c ]
AS181181 calls [$0.25 USD]
Radi0ActiveM folds
DabbelDamage folds
llany folds
derExperte folds
TheDudeRoyal folds
eisdaxel folds
emaxs calls [$0.15 USD]
>You have options at Table 126912 Table!.
alne88 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 4d, 6h ]
emaxs checks
alne88 bets [$0.75 USD]
AS181181 folds
emaxs folds
alne88 does not show cards.
alne88 wins $1.47 USD


galam
Joined: 06.03.2005

Would you be able to post some screenshots of the problems you noticed, like the graph problem and the view hand source problem. Would help our devs a lot fixing those problems.


This is bugs in 0.39:
If I doubleclick a player - a window with showdown hands is opened. But if I chose his different hand - the hand details disappear. Clicking on the previous hand again doesn't fixes it. In this example I've clicked TT and hand history has cleared. You can see final pot 0BB and no info about any moves.

Garbage at end of hand history:

Single hand overview chart:

In overview click on any limit clears all data (in this example click was made in the marked place).


easydriver
Joined: 06.11.2007

Change the graph source to Show hands or Show days!


Version 0.41
Showdown hands window cleanup on click on hand - not fixed
Straight line chart - my bad, sorry
stats cleanup when clicked on limits - fixed
BB are not counted - not fixed

If you want my $.02 - then 'BB are not counted' is serious enough. Others may be allowed to go into beta.
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Also this hand is shown as if I (alne88) is on BB while I am on SB:
** Hand History for Game 7001058962 **
$25 USD NL Texas Hold`em - Thursday, April 24, 15:42:55 ET 2008
Table Table 125453 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: Torben234 ( $10.39 USD )
Seat 3: skunkman155 ( $6.78 USD )
Seat 4: WINO0 ( $15 USD )
Seat 5: Ari_Gold82 ( $3.95 USD )
Seat 7: eisdaxel ( $26.12 USD )
Seat 10: d0uble_blind ( $4.40 USD )
Seat 9: alne88 ( $4.75 USD )
Seat 1: MrJones__ ( $5 USD )
Seat 6: l_thedon ( $5 USD )
Seat 8: fishwonderbr ( $0 USD )
alne88 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
d0uble_blind posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
l_thedon posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to alne88 [ 5d 2d ]
Torben234 calls [$0.25 USD]
skunkman155 folds
WINO0 folds
Ari_Gold82 folds
l_thedon checks
eisdaxel folds
alne88 folds
d0uble_blind checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 3c, 6c ]
d0uble_blind checks
Torben234 checks
l_thedon checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
d0uble_blind checks
>You have options at $100 Freeroll (1401670) Table #198 Table!.
>You have options at Table 127090 Table!.
Torben234 bets [$0.50 USD]
l_thedon folds
>You have options at Table 128379 Table!.
MrJones__ has left the table.
d0uble_blind folds
Torben234 does not show cards.
Torben234 wins $1.31 USD


version 0.42
1) Showdown hands still broken. You can't view any showdown hand except the one that is shown by default.
2) BigBlinds still not counted. That is a major bug. It invalidates the whole overview tab as it shows incorrect profit data.

It is a good idea to list bugs that are known but not fixed yet in the version when it is released. It doesn't worth it (for me at least) to download 62M file to just re-report same bugs again.


kutza
Joined: 05.10.2007

HI everyone,

I experienced the same.

I write also manually my balance to an excell sheet, and it seems that eleph0.41 does not count the initial post as well as the bb cost. Also, it seems that rake is not subtracted from the final amount won.


galam
Joined: 06.03.2005

0.43?


Nope, both bugs are still present in 0.43.
1) BigBlinds losses are not counted so win/loss calculation is still incorrect (screen shot is below, example hand is already given in this thread).
2) Showdown hands details are cleared if I click on some other hand (screenshow already posted).


Just a quick idea. When I quit elephant it produces a error log each time that is full of such entries:
(10) , line 0: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.
at System.Number.StringToNumber(String str, NumberStyles options, NumberBuffer& number, NumberFormatInfo info, Boolean parseDecimal)
at System.Number.ParseDecimal(String value, NumberStyles options, NumberFormatInfo numfmt)
at System.Decimal.Parse(String s, IFormatProvider provider)
at System.Convert.ToDecimal(String value)
at Poker.Parsers.ParserProprietary.a(String A_0, Information A_1)
My locale setting is russian, 'decimal point' here is actually 'decimal comma'. May be elephant fails to parse a big blind value due to this? I.e. may be it expects that I have to post, say '0,25USD' instead of '0.25USD'?
On the other hand, small blinds are calculated correctly.


HURRAY! I've changed my 'regional settings' to be 'English (USA)', cleared DB and re-imported it. AND IT WORKED!
So please - fix this bug. It is really annoying until you know how to fix it.


easydriver
Joined: 06.11.2007

AAARGH! As an IT Engineer I have sucked with these Regional Settings several times, and it hadn't come to my mind...

Once I have installed a software with an embedded Oracle database on an Win 2k3 English installed by a customer. The Oracle wrote "installation successful" to the logs in Hungarian, but the installer was checking for the same phrase in English in an endless loop... One core at 100%, the other at 5%... Two days until I found out that Regional Settings was Hungarian...

Although shouldn't there be problems with the Small Blind as well?


How did you change your regional settings?