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BACK ON THE RANGE - Launching 5CuDs again!

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Originally posted by Verre
Hi there!

Hi

Wasn't aware of too many flhm6max blogs on here anymore. 2-3 years ago this site was littered with them. Anyways good to see. I play the same limits as you but I play on stars.

TBH I'm in a strange place in my poker experience at the moment and I'm not sure how much I'll be playing limit in the future.

I decided to start studying my game 1/4 as much as I play and the majority of the study is absorbing Boomer videos. The guys insight is amazing and helps me plugs leaks I form.

Sound's +EV to me and I have to agree that Boomer is an excellent coach, although I always Imagine this playing in the back ground Boomer's theme (sorry Boomer!) especially when he calls the villain's hand cheese!

Anyways I'll be keeping up with your blog. Also you might want to switch to stars. Its as good as a money printing factory over there. In 15 sessions and 8000 hands im +400BB and another +100BB with milestone bonus and redeposit bonus. And that by no means reflects my skill level I'm very well aware of many leaks I have.

Thanks for the feedback :) I wish I could play tracked on Stars but alas I found Stars before I found PS and I need to keep this status if I'm ever going to learn anything.

PS any LHE 6 Max tips & tricks would be welcome


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Verre
Joined: 24.02.2009

My #1 tip for our limits is either have initiative or sd value or dont be in the pot at all. I lose most of my $ when both of these keys are not met.

Although this is probubly the case for most small stakes games, I do believe at 2/4+ this doesn't necessarily need to be the case as your opponent may be sophisticated enough to barrel air or fold air to a check raise. At these levels bets (Expecially donk bets except for guys who donk bet every flop (I've run into a few)) usually mean "Durrrr I have a hand I like and will never fold."

Anyways I think I'm going to start a blog myself as I'm a terrible blogger in the past but I think I have the background and drive to possibly follow through this time round.


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MisClick
Joined: 30.05.2008

Originally posted by Borisian

Originally posted by MisClick
Have you tried turbo sngs at the micros?

Yeah I've been playing them all day, doing OK (break even) on party and getting owned on stars, every one I join is full of mass multi-tabling regs.

Well, we have stuff to discuss then (if that is ok with you, ofc). I am sending you a request in the community section so we can PM :)
(concerning tournaments, are you playing limit too? I play NL)


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Wooo Hooo!

Thanks to VorpalF2F I now have a working version of PokerHands. I imported all my 5CD hands from last month and produced a pretty graph not bad eh?

Especially when you consider that my ROR was huge as I only started with 6.65 BB ($1.33) in my Pokers Stars roll.

Ok here comes overconfidence I must try not to turn into this guy :f_biggrin:

All in all though I'm quite pleased with the test firing of my 5CuD missile.


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MisClick
Joined: 30.05.2008

wow, nice! That looks like a supernova explosion!

Within a massive, evolved star (a) the onion-layered shells of elements undergo fusion, forming an iron core (b) that reaches Chandrasekhar-mass and starts to collapse. The inner part of the core is compressed into neutrons (c), causing infalling material to bounce (d) and form an outward-propagating shock front (red). The shock starts to stall (e), but it is re-invigorated by a process that may include neutrino interaction. The surrounding material is blasted away (f), leaving only a degenerate remnant.

(from old good wikipedia)

the degenerate remnant could be, for example, poker perfection :f_cool:


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Originally posted by MisClick
degenerate remnant.

I quote your quote of Bob's quote of Doyle Brunson "If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..."

I am a degenerate remnant! :f_thumbsup:


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MisClick
Joined: 30.05.2008

^^^LOL

I must say I quoted the quote that Bob quoted :f_eek:


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trickybob
Joined: 28.07.2010

It was a good quote to quote and has an unlimited quota of quotability.

Ooooh, my head hurts. :f_confused:


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I just played a small session of .1/.1 PL 5CD on bwin and found it a nerve racking experience, there was no FL action to be had so I gave it a go. I was following a similar strategy to FL and opening similar ranges from similar positions (only 5 seats on bwin).

It was Ok and people were making the same mistakes as they do at FL, though of course the penalty was much much higher. I did find it hard when I opened AAxxx UTG and the CO re-potted it, I called like a fool (that's the FL reflex) and got owned by trips, he discarded 2 and bet post draw and I paid him off unimproved. FL had swayed me into thinking that anyone who draws 2 is holding a pair + kicker 99% of the time. Oops! :f_mad:

I recovered in the end and made a modest $.50 profit but I need to formulate a different plan for that variant.


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Ooooooo! A 5CD blog. I will be following (tbh not sure why I wasn't anyway). PL 5CD >> FL 5CD. There are some hands in my blog if you can be bothered to trawl through it, which I certainly can't any more. It could do with Spring cleaning to cut it down to a more manageable size (about 20 posts probably).

When I was moving up in FL 5CD my BR management was up at 100BB, down at 80BB, which worked well (I ended up playing 2/4 after starting with $25 on 10c/20c). Good luck!


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Originally posted by jbpatzer
Ooooooo! A 5CD blog. I will be following (tbh not sure why I wasn't anyway). PL 5CD >> FL 5CD. There are some hands in my blog if you can be bothered to trawl through it, which I certainly can't any more. It could do with Spring cleaning to cut it down to a more manageable size (about 20 posts probably).

Glad to have you following!

When I was moving up in FL 5CD my BR management was up at 100BB, down at 80BB, which worked well (I ended up playing 2/4 after starting with $25 on 10c/20c). Good luck!

Thanks for the BRM tip! As you can see from above I wasn't using BRM in my experiments with 5CD and I was pretty luck to have hit an up swing and have EvGalois' articles & videos on my side. Just knowing what to open from where and what to bin was hugely +EV.

Speaking of strategy have you got any words of wisdom for me?


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Huricano
Joined: 29.08.2010
jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by Borisian
Speaking of strategy have you got any words of wisdom for me?

i) Get Pokerhands working.
ii) Put positional stats in HUD.
iii) Make sure you can translate PDR% into a range.
iv) Raise your A high flush draws so that when you discard one (which you should almost always do with trips) you have some semi-bluffs in your range, and bluff when you pair the bottom card. This also allows you to value bet with good two pair if they have seen you discard one then show up with air. And it's surprising how often you win at showdown with A high busted draw vs worse busted draw.
v) When they discard three then bet, they usually have it, so I wouldn't go crazy with the bluff catching.
vi) Have some hands that you snow. I used to do this with the top of my folding range. e,g, from UTG I raise AKKxx and better and raise then stand pat with QKKxx.
vii) Adjust the above according to who you're up against. e.g. no need to bluff v station, bluff catch more v maniac, bluff more v nit. All the usual stuff.
viii) Wait for Huricano to disagree with me.


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
Huricano
Joined: 29.08.2010

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by Borisian
Speaking of strategy have you got any words of wisdom for me?

i) Get Pokerhands working.
ii) Put positional stats in HUD.
iii) Make sure you can translate PDR% into a range.
iv) Raise your A high flush draws so that when you discard one (which you should almost always do with trips) you have some semi-bluffs in your range, and bluff when you pair the bottom card. This also allows you to value bet with good two pair if they have seen you discard one then show up with air. And it's surprising how often you win at showdown with A high busted draw vs worse busted draw.
v) When they discard three then bet, they usually have it, so I wouldn't go crazy with the bluff catching.
vi) Have some hands that you snow. I used to do this with the top of my folding range. e,g, from UTG I raise AKKxx and better and raise then stand pat with QKKxx.
vii) Adjust the above according to who you're up against. e.g. no need to bluff v station, bluff catch more v maniac, bluff more v nit. All the usual stuff.
viii) Wait for Huricano to disagree with me.

1) mhm
2) mhm
3) mhm, very important!
4) mmmm...yes, but you should also change you're semibluffing range according to position. KT flushdraw is not enough UTG... _mad:
5) mhm
6) mmmmm...please don't snow with hands that has a good pot equity you're raping a hand!
If you're on BU stand pat on AQJ98/KQJ98 or sth (AK is too good! :f_cool: ) but not with 77432! KK is enough to open raise UTG at most tables.
7) mhm...
8) ohhh... _grin:

You should also think of some bluffing range when you draw 3.
It's a bit impossible from UTG/HJ but on CO and BU you can be more creative _love: BU vs SB or BB if drawing goes 3-3 value bet AA and KKA.
If they won't pay you off with QQ/JJ simple raise any5 from BU _love:


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Wow, hints & tips by the bucket load, thanks JB. & Huricano

Originally posted by jbpatzer

i) Get Pokerhands working.

Some one call for the man with the gun, I've fallen at the first fence. The database is fine but can't get the hud running for love nor money. VorpalF2F has been kind and patient but still no joy, I'm tempted to write my own hud program but that will take time (and if I start that I'd probably end up coding the complete thing with a SQLite backend).

iii) I'll have a mooch through my limited <2500 hands but I don't think that's going to give me much of an indication.

All in all I'm going to spend this month working on my 5CD theory and database. And maybe get a few hands in when I can.


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Its Alive! Alive I tell you, Alive!

You won't believe how many long shots were taken and straws clutched.


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Well done you. Now start calling less. :coolface:


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Originally posted by jbpatzer
Well done you. Now start calling less. :coolface:

ROFL

Can't deny I've been a bit of a showdown monkey.


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