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Gothicrow
Joined: 15.11.2010

Hi.

The opponent in UTG is a 24/18 cbet flop 36%, cbet turn 50% AF 3.3

The opponent in BTN is a 45/20 AF 3.1, fold to cbet 60%, bet vs missed cbet 80%

I didn't 3bet preflop, because I don't like been OOP with my hand face up. As played preflop, what would be your game plan?

Thanks.

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
Hero ($27.62)
BB ($21.34)
UTG ($35.13)
UTG+1 ($25.35)
CO ($26.96)
BTN ($16.09)

Dealt to Hero Q♥ A♦ A♠ 8♠

UTG raises to $0.85, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.75, fold

FLOP ($2.80) T♠ 4♦ 8♣


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

Check/call the flop. Villain will typically slow down on the turn if he hasn't improved. Take it from there. If UTG bets the flop and BTN calls, then go ahead and dump it, I can't see you being good in a 3 way dance when there are only 2 good turn cards for you.


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Originally posted by Ribbo
Check/call the flop. Villain will typically slow down on the turn if he hasn't improved. Take it from there. If UTG bets the flop and BTN calls, then go ahead and dump it, I can't see you being good in a 3 way dance when there are only 2 good turn cards for you.

Check/call do you think its profitable even against one opponent ,because we almost always end up check/fold Turn only way we can win is if he check back two streets our hit one of our two outs both pretty unlikely?


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i think c/c the flop is ok, againts 2 or even one opponent..
If you hit the A, there is a small % that the villan will put you on AAxx and probably get paied
If you hit a :spade: you have more equity for the river with the nut FD
As you can see UTG likes to Second barrel around 50% of the times so hecould be betting with worse, thinking he is better againts you SB calling range


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Gothicrow
Joined: 15.11.2010

And now...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
Hero ($27.62)
BB ($21.34)
UTG ($35.13)
UTG+1 ($25.35)
CO ($26.96)
BTN ($16.09)

Dealt to Hero Q♥ A♦ A♠ 8♠

UTG raises to $0.85, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.75, fold

FLOP ($2.80) T♠ 4♦ 8♣

Hero checks, UTG bets $2.66, BTN folds, Hero calls $2.66

TURN ($8.12) T♠ 4♦ 8♣ 3♠

Hero ????

Do you play ch/c based only on pot odds and pay if he bets something like $5 and fold if his bet is bigger? or what would you do? If the pot odds are right on turn, do you fold on river unimproved?


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Gothicrow
Joined: 15.11.2010

Hi, I had forgotten this.

Thanks!


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

I think you have to checkraise all in here. Villain is rarely showing up with a set, and if he is aggro he may bet again with all his straight wraps. You're not doing badly at all against 2 pair you can have as much as 20 outs here as your Aces, Queens, 8's and spades can all be good.

The reason you have to raise here is to charge the draws that will double barrel, and to give you an easy river. Calling the turn puts a lot of tough decisions on you but your hand is too good to fold which only leaves raising.


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