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confidant91
Joined: 02.04.2011

homework lesson 4:

:diamond:Post a hand for evaluation in which you have the initiative postflop.

KK nl4 sh

:diamond:Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members.

Nl10 Sh Ak

:diamond:You are on the flop with KQ. The board cards are J, 9, 8, and your opponent holds 77. What is your equity in this spot?

Board: 8hJs9c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 41.41% 41.41% 0.00% { KsQd }
MP3 58.59% 58.59% 0.00% { 7h7c }


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Good job! Homework #4 Done!

This weeks homework was a bit easier. But the idea of that is to help you go through last weeks stuff if you didn't go through everything. Or either way maybe even read some more articles, watch some videos and of course attend in the coaching. What will also help for your game is the evaluation part of other members hands and of course posting your own hands.

If you have interests you could try calculating the equity with a formula which you can use even on tables(either playing online or live poker):
(Amount of outs x 4) – (Amount of outs – 8) = Your Equity

About Question #3:

Board: J♠9♣8♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG    41.41%  41.41%   0.00% { KsQd }
UTG+1  58.59%  58.59%   0.00% { 7h7c }

Hopefully this wasn't too easy homework for you.


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confidant91
Joined: 02.04.2011

Finally got some time to make homework for lesson 5.

:diamond:Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation where you have based your decisions on the stats of your opponents.

KQo nl4 sh

:diamond:Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members.

AQs 031612

:diamond:Question 3: Consider the following situation:

Preflop: Hero is BU with 6 , 7

In my opinion we should raise here, we need to protect our flash. Sb seems like decent player. He is most likely having here a Tp. So i thing that we are ahead. Of course he can have 1010, maybe JJ(myabe he will 3bet them preflop). On BB is sitting fish which can have now tp, or some draw. So my goal will be here to go AI with BB and fold vs push of SB.

Preflop: Hero is CO with J , J

As he is aggresive and on bu, i think that he could be trying to light 3bet us here. Even if not i am still chcek calling this board. Cause i dont need to protect my hand vs draws and with any sort of aggression i am just isolating myself into better hands.

Hope that at least something makes sense cause this week was not so good for me and i hope that i am not that bad as i think right now But at least it motivated me to go through some silver articles.

On monday i am gonna sum up this week and post some hands. Maybe i am gonna use the same system as sikac uses with his posted hands as i see it quite useful.


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confidant91
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hands from session 20.3.2012:

JJ nl4 sh
KQo nl4 sh

not everything posted now, tomorrow i am going to continue.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Good Job! Homework #5 Done!

About Task #3
It's a very close decision: does protection or pot control weigh heavier here? Do you want to protect against hands like 3x or A:dx and K:dx? Or do you want to control the pot size and try to induce a bluff on the river in case there is no T, no J and no additional ?

Raise/fold is out of question - with the given pot size and the good made hand you have, it can't even be considered.

In case you decide to go broke, you can't really be blamed either. It's not a sign of weakness that the rather tight small blind decides to bet into two people here, though. I would say a call is to be slightly favored, while the many outs against you are annoying. The big blind who calls rather loosely speaks in favor of a raise/broke again. Both options are finally considered equal, which shows - all things considered - how close and full of variance these spots really are.

About Task #4
You've called pre-flop and then hit a good board. You basically have two choices now: either you assume that your opponent will go broke loosely or puts you on a bluff often and you thus check/raise - or you play check/call in the spirit of way ahead / way behind. The problem with the latter is that there are a lot of cards you don't want to see in the later course of the hand. All in all, it depends on your balancing as both lines make sense under certain circumstances.

A check/fold would be really pointless, of course. It's hard to say whether you should donk-bet here; donk/fold can be discarded as that would turn your hand into a pure bluff and your opponent would interpret this as weakness and start raising you out of flops with hands like AK/AQ/air. So, if you want to donk-bet, it has to be a donk/3-bet.

Good luck on tables and with the Course.


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confidant91
Joined: 02.04.2011

Hello,

finally back at this course. Since i am having quite busy time at school i have played only some hands for relax. Actualy made some profit, so that is obv good :f_biggrin: .

I have decided to take a shot on gold status here. As there is interesting promo. If everything goes well i will be before the end of semester shoting nl 10. Since that i have to improve my play again as the mistakes wil be more expensive on higher limit.

As i´ve always been interested in math i have started with some countings. Can you please check it if it is right?

here is the hand:

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Přehrát handu

$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BB$4.00:///////;MP2$1.67:///////;MP3$1.34:///////;CO$5.70:///////;BU (Hero)$4.00:///////;SB$4.18:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BU with J:h, Q:h.
MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.04, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.16, SB folds, BB calls $0.12, MP3 calls $0.12.

Flop: ($0.5) K:h, 3:h, 8:d (3 players)
BB checks, MP3 bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, BB calls $0.08.

Turn: ($0.74) T:s (3 players)
BB bets $0.60, MP3 folds, Hero calls $0.60.

is a call here ok?

First of all i created a range in equilab:
Equity Win Tie
MP2 63.41% 63.41% 0.00% 88, 33, KTs+, T8s
MP3 36.59% 36.59% 0.00% QhJh

My pot odds here are 1.34/0,6=2.23/1
So my equity needed is 1/2.23*100=44,84%

If this counting is correct, for break even call i would need to get 1.34*0.4484-1.34*0.3659=0.11 on the river.

Is this allright or can you show me how you are counting how much money you need to earn on later streets for ev+ call? I think that it can imptove my game as i am weak with draws.

River: ($1.94) 3:s (2 players)
BB raises to $3.16, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: $1.94.

Hope that you can understand to my thinking process.

Tomorrow i am gonna post some hand and finally finish another lesson.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello confidant91,

Best way to use the calculations if to use the Beginners Course calculator, do you have it? You can there use the Implied Odds calculator. :)

But yes, your calculations are correct, it should be something similar. The only problem here is that we could be against sets and therefore we might even need to discount outs. :(

Best Regards.


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confidant91
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Can you please give me a link where i can find that excel chart for countings?

homework lesson 6:

:diamond: Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation where you have either a) freeplay, b) slowplay, or c) multi-way pot situation.

KQo nl4 sh

:diamond: Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members.

NL10: SH: A9 4way

:diamond: uestion 3: Consider the following situation:
$25 NL Hold'em (10 handed)

Stacks & Stats
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($25) rock
UTG+2 ($25)
MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($25) LAG
MP3 ($25) maniac
CO ($25)
Hero BU ($25)
SB ($25)
BB ($25) calling station

Preflop: Hero is BU with Q , J
5 folds, MP3 raises $1.00, CO calls $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, 1 fold, BB calls $1.00

Flop: ($4.10) 3 , J , A (4 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.10) Q (4 players)
BB bets $2.05, 2 folds, Hero...?

What action would you take, and why?

Here i am just calling. The reason is that i see in his range mostly two pair better as he is passive player. But on the other hand his sizing is quite weak so he can still do this with a draw. So in my opinion is the correct play to call and reevaluate it on river.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Good Job! Homework #6 Done!

You mean the course calc? Just take a look into Beginners Course thread and you will find it there (very first post). :)

About Question #3:
Two lines can quickly be discarded here: fold and raise/fold; your hand is simply too strong for those alternatives.

It's hard to assess whether you should put in a raise here. When a rather passive player decides to bet into three players while being out of position, it does look strong. It's more likely an indication of a made hand than that of a draw.

A raise naturally protects, but you run the risk of isolating yourself against very strong range. Which weaker hands could your opponent possibly continue playing here?

The deciding factor finally comes in the size of the pot. This tiny pot simply isn't worth putting yourself into a tough spot where you could potentially end up risking your entire stack. A raise would be overplayed here and pot control takes the precedent over protection.

Best of Luck on the tables and with the Course.


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confidant91
Joined: 02.04.2011

Hi Veriz,

it seems that i have been inactive here. It was due to school. But now i have holydays and i would love to finish this project.

here is a homework for lesson 7:
:diamond: Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation where you have played on a 6-max table (short-handed).
QQ nl10 sh

:diamond: Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members
NL 10 JJ 3bet pot ip
$10 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

:diamond: Question 3: Consider the following situation:

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($10)
MP ($10)
CO ($10)
BU($10)
SB ($10)
BB (Hero) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 , 4
2 folds, CO raises to $0.40, BU calls $0.40, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) 3 , 2 , Q (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, CO Raises All-in, BU calls All-in, SB folds, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

I think that it is a call. We have combo draw and even vs one player i would call. Since there is another AI guy we are getting even better ods.

:diamond: Question 4: Consider the following situation:

$10 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($10)
MP ($10)
CO (Hero) ($10)
BU($10)
SB ($10)
BB ($10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A , K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BU calls $0.40, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) A , 4 , 4 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1.20, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

In this situataion i am also just calling. I put him on air, pp or ace. So if i raise i only make him fold weaker hands. So it is better to keep his hole range in the game and let him bluff on other streets.

one more question i have on you:

Is it still our goal to get it in preflop with KK even 200bb+? Unles villian is nit? I am asking because it happened to me for the second time in quite short period. Obv i lost both :f_biggrin:


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Good Job! Homework #7 Done! Great to have you back.

About Question #3:
In this case, you decided to bet out yourself and two players behind you go all-in. You would have to invest $8.40 in order to participate in a $22 pot, which corresponds to an equity of 27.63%.

Board: Q:h 3:s 2:h
Dead:

Equity Win DrawLoss Hand
Player 1: 38.538% 38.538% 0.000% 61.462% 5h4h
Player 2: 14.540% 14.540% 0.000% 85.460% QQ+
Player 3: 46.921% 46.921% 0.000% 53.079% 22-33

You get the required odds even when you're exclusively up against very strong hands!

About Question #4:
Top pair / top kicker has been and will always be a hand that's tough to play, especially in a multi-way pot. In this case, you've hit a nice flop, but you're up against 3 opponents on a dry board which doesn't allow for any dangerous draws.

A fold on this board is, of course, too weak. You can't really hit much better and there might be worse Ax hands willing to pay you off.

If you think that your opponent(s) is/are often willing to go broke on the flop with worse hands, raising might not be the worst of choices. But one thing is clear: if you raise, you have to go all-in on the flop! Raise/fold with your top pair is absolutely out of question.

Even though this might leave a bitter aftertaste in a 4-way pot, you should play this like a way ahead / way behind spot here - by playing it passive, you will extract the maximum from weaker hands and bluffs while avoiding big losses against stronger hands.

Is it still our goal to get it in preflop with KK even 200bb+? Unles villian is nit? I am asking because it happened to me for the second time in quite short period. Obv i lost both

Try maybe to post those hands and we can take a look, would be also useful if you posted stats. But usually it will be difficult to fold KK, for 200bb we might at some point even just Call and play postflop cause more reasonable opponent wont go broke with a lot worse.

Best of Luck on the Tables.


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confidant91
Joined: 02.04.2011

Hi, here is my final homework for lesson 8.

:diamond: Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation.
KK nl10 sh

:diamond: Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members.
Nl4 99

:diamond:

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

$100 NL Hold'em (9 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($100)
Hero ($100)
CO ($100)
BU ($100)
SB ($100)
BB ($100) (18/15/3.7/23/732)[VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]

Preflop: Hero is BU with 8 , 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 3 folds, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($8.50) 3 , 6 , 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.50 BB calls $5.50

Turn: ($19.50) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

we must continue with betting here. We want to get it in here. Our hand is strong now but we need to protect our hand from flashdraws and time to time from pairing the board on river. But i dont expect that he is having sets that often as he should raise as on the flop.

:diamond: BONUS Question 4 (optional question): Consider the following situation:

$200 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
MP2 (Hero) ($327.95)
MP3 ($207.45)
CO ($415.55) (TAG)
BU ($373.60) (TAG)
SB ($200.00)
BB ($218.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7 , 8
Hero raises to $7, 1 folds, CO raises to $23, BU calls $23, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($72) 7 , 8 , 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU bets $52, Hero calls, CO calls

Turn: ($228) K (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU checks

River: ($228) Q (3 players)
Hero bets $110, CO raises to $340.55 (All-in), BU folds, Hero?

What factors and concepts that you have learned so far would you use in evaluating this situation? What would your action be?

Hm pretty sick river card. I think that we got to fold here. He most likely has QQ. His cold call tribet range is quite strong. Something like AQ+, 1010+. On flop he can steal here with whole range. Nut the turn card change it. He would continue betting only with AK. So it seems that he has only pocket pairs before river in his range. And finally on this river card i dont think that he is ever bluffing here. There is not much in my range that i would bet myself and fold to raise.

Hope that it make sense :f_biggrin: . Does it mean that i am ready to pass my quizz after you check my homework?


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veriz
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Good Job! Homework #8 Done!

About Question #3:
In this case, the right answer is quite obvious. Both AF and WTS speak in favor of a check behind for bluff induce. But your hand is too strong here, so you want to get it all-in on the turn. There are a lot of hands you still have to protect against, too. Playing for bluff induce or pot control would simply be too weak and dangerous.

About Question #4:
About preflop play I'd say that it's still doable while we even are a bit deeper. I expect the hero to play solid postflop play. So Calling is definitely fine here with having 2 opponents in the hand and getting great implied odds. But for more beginners it's definitely a very close spot while they ain't gonna be able to lay down weak hands.

As we have the information that CO is a TAG player. Therefore, we expect him to have a strong 3bet range. Unless we have some other information like he has a wide 3bet range. But while we don’t have that, we basically consider his range to be something QQ+, AK or sometimes even tighter.

So now you have to ask yourself what kind of hands would play like this on river? KK may slowplay like this. QQ definitely is as well in his range. AK/AA he wouldn’t play this way since he know himself as well that he isn’t going to get Called by worse hands. So basically it’s up to the nuts most often. You only beat bluff there and I don’t expect the opponent to bluff in this case unless we know the table dynamics better.

Yes, you can now go for the exam. :)

Best of Luck in The Exam!


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