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giraffe1977
Joined: 29.07.2008

I just moved to sh 80K hands ago and I played 35K nl200 SH and still get owned a lot. ) i played a ton of FR games all the way up to nl400.

My flop raise % is around 17,5 % so i think its ok =

I have some difficulty with check raising the flop, my flop check raise % is 8,7 do not know if this is to low?

I check raise my sets when board is wet and we are mw and i know pfr will cbet.

Also i like to check raise my big draws 12 outs or more.

I check raise my overcards or pp when am hu and the villain cbets to much, more then like 80%.

What other hands can i ad or is my range and check raise just fine


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giraffe1977
Joined: 29.07.2008

One other issue, over a 30K sh sample i made a winrate of -174bb/100 hands with..................OVERPAIRS.

I just find them my ever lasting nightmare. When i check the turn for pot control i always get suckout (at least i got that feeling). And when i go for 3 streets of value i get value owned on the river.

Even pocket kings (over 40 hands i still loose ) or AK (over 111 hands i loose -283bb/100)

I know sample is still small but i still wanna do something about this.


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sirilidion
Joined: 15.04.2008

wouldn't it be better just to close a table at ZOOM if you double up and avoid difficult deep stack spot and open up again with 100 bb or isn't that possible with ZOOM I know you can do it with ipoker's Speed Hold'em?


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xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010

Originally posted by sirilidion
wouldn't it be better just to close a table at ZOOM if you double up and avoid difficult deep stack spot and open up again with 100 bb or isn't that possible with ZOOM I know you can do it with ipoker's Speed Hold'em?

i did that a couple times playing zoom - it is possible. did it cos im not experienced enough playing deep :f_biggrin: which is quite backwards thinking because if i kept doing that then i'll never learn to play deep :rolleyes:


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doctorkgb
Joined: 01.04.2009

Originally posted by sirilidion
wouldn't it be better just to close a table at ZOOM if you double up and avoid difficult deep stack spot and open up again with 100 bb or isn't that possible with ZOOM I know you can do it with ipoker's Speed Hold'em?

Being deep at Zoom is where money is if you know how to fold


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Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008

When you are deep on zoom in the blinds facing a steal:

Do you open up your value 3B range as you expect villain to flat more (rightly so as we are deep)
Do you tighten up your value 3B range as you want to have a stronger range being OOP deep. In which case you flat more.

What happens to your 3B bluffing range?

Thanks


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009
Schelles
Joined: 05.07.2007

Hey Pleno!

I've just read through this thread and it's amazing how committed you are to answering every question as good as possible. Big thumbs up!

I've been thinking about getting a coach to get my game to the next level, but still unsure when I want to make the investment. I saw your coaching schedule in the beginning of the thread and it looks very interesting.

So my question:

How much do you charge for your coaching services?


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

hey guys,

will reply to all ASAP, big grind weekend and busy at the moment.

Speak soon and run good.


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Originally posted by doctorkgb

Originally posted by sirilidion
wouldn't it be better just to close a table at ZOOM if you double up and avoid difficult deep stack spot and open up again with 100 bb or isn't that possible with ZOOM I know you can do it with ipoker's Speed Hold'em?

Being deep at Zoom is where money is if you know how to fold

The regs seem to go absolutely bonkers too when you start getting 150+bb deep


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doctorkgb
Joined: 01.04.2009

Originally posted by CallumN

Originally posted by doctorkgb

Originally posted by sirilidion
wouldn't it be better just to close a table at ZOOM if you double up and avoid difficult deep stack spot and open up again with 100 bb or isn't that possible with ZOOM I know you can do it with ipoker's Speed Hold'em?

Being deep at Zoom is where money is if you know how to fold

The regs seem to go absolutely bonkers too when you start getting 150+bb deep

Imo most value one can get from fish that coolered someone few times. And they absolutely have no clue how to play deep. I am a calling station, so still it is not best option for me, I guess.


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I know this is only 100bb but this is something I really like doing vs fish and especially when deep.

Overbetting turns/flops

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($52.61)
BB ($103)
UTG ($61.10)
CO ($51.25)
Hero ($50)

Dealt to Hero 6♠ J♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.25, fold, BB calls $0.75

FLOP ($2.75) 7♠ Q♠ Q♣

BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.75

TURN ($6.25) 7♠ Q♠ Q♣ 4♠

BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

RIVER ($30.25) 7♠ Q♠ Q♣ 4♠ 9♦

BB checks, Hero bets $35 (AI)


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Which video makers would you recommend?

Do you think it's +EV for unl/SSNL to get a staking + coaching deal to put his progress on steroids and hit the medium stakes asap ?


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doctorkgb
Joined: 01.04.2009

Originally posted by CallumN
I know this is only 100bb but this is something I really like doing vs fish and especially when deep.

Overbetting turns/flops

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($52.61)
BB ($103)
UTG ($61.10)
CO ($51.25)
Hero ($50)

Dealt to Hero 6♠ J♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.25, fold, BB calls $0.75

FLOP ($2.75) 7♠ Q♠ Q♣

BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.75

TURN ($6.25) 7♠ Q♠ Q♣ 4♠

BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

RIVER ($30.25) 7♠ Q♠ Q♣ 4♠ 9♦

BB checks, Hero bets $35 (AI)

Somethimest they like to do all the work:

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($26.43)
SB ($51.34)
BB ($70.38)
UTG ($38.01)
Hero (MP) ($117.61)
CO ($36.11)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J♠, 10:spade:
1 fold, Hero bets $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 2♠, 3♦, J♣ (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $3.30, Hero calls $2.05

Turn: ($8.95) 6♠ (2 players)
BB bets $6, Hero calls $6

River: ($20.95) 7♠ (2 players)
BB bets $12, Hero raises to $25.25, BB raises to $60.33 (All-In), Hero calls $35.08

Total pot: $141.61 | Rake: $2

Results:

Spoiler

BB had J♦, 10:diamond: (one pair, Jacks).
Hero had J♠, 10:spade: (flush, Jack high).
Outcome: Hero won $139.61


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sirilidion
Joined: 15.04.2008

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
iPoker
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($11.63) 116bb
BTN ($10) 100bb
SB ($10.87) 109bb
sirilidion (BB) ($21.38) 214bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 4 players) sirilidion is BB 9♥ A♥
CO raises to $0.30, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, sirilidion raises to $1.20, CO folds, SB raises to $3, sirilidion goes all-in $21.38, SB goes all-in $7.87

Flop: 10:diamond: K♦ J♠ ($32.40, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: 6♣ ($32.40, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: 8♥ ($32.40, 2 players, 2 all-in)

SB: hands: 427 VPIP: 26 PFR: 26 AF 2.9 3 bet: 19.4 4 bet: 15.4

There has been alot of 3bet/ 4bet action villian and me. I think villian is certainly capable of making 4-bet bluffs as he has a 4-bet percentage of 15.4 and knows I am capable of 3 bet bluffing in this spot. So far I hadn't made a 5 bet yet in the session. Also calling oop and then reraising looks more like a pocket pair or maybe suited connecters and thought I was either mostly flipping if he called or he would fold his bluff. What woud you think his range is in this spot? Is the 5 bet shove overplayed here?


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

Gibraltar has been shut down for like 4-5 hours today, abs carnage, no electricity! Worst time of the month for it to happen too.


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bennisboy
Joined: 11.04.2011

Originally posted by pleno1
Gibraltar has been shut down for like 4-5 hours today, abs carnage, no electricity! Worst time of the month for it to happen too.

Stop moaning and post some answers. We don't pay you to complain _biggrin:


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sirilidion
Joined: 15.04.2008

Originally posted by bennisboy

Originally posted by pleno1
Gibraltar has been shut down for like 4-5 hours today, abs carnage, no electricity! Worst time of the month for it to happen too.

Stop moaning and post some answers. We don't pay you to complain _biggrin:

we don't pay him at all


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Solidius
Joined: 28.12.2010

Originally posted by bennisboy

Originally posted by pleno1
Gibraltar has been shut down for like 4-5 hours today, abs carnage, no electricity! Worst time of the month for it to happen too.

Stop moaning and post some answers. We don't pay you to complain _biggrin:

Actually it is "We don't pay you (dot)" or "We don't pay you, so we are going to be patient because we admire the effort you are putting to answer all these questions".

:]


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sirilidion
Joined: 15.04.2008

I personaly would go for the second one :]


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