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Top2 on the river vs pot bet

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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Is my line ok here? Villain again is an unknow, only 10 hands. Here i thought his draws must've missed.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $223.62 (447.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $51.84 (103.7 bb)
BTN: $258.22 (516.4 bb)
SB: $37.66 (75.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 Q T K
Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) Q 5 T (2 players)
Hero bets $2.68, BTN raises to $7.15, Hero calls $4.47

Turn: ($18.05) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($18.05) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $17.24, Hero calls $17.24

Results:

Spoiler

$52.53 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: Q 5 T 6 7
Hero mucked 6 Q T K and lost (-$25.89 net)
BTN showed 4 7 6 3 and won $51.03 ($25.14 net)


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rrrood
Joined: 22.11.2007

I don't really get villains check behind on the turn. FWIW I'm betting the turn for value and protection.

River bet is polarised between AIR and nuts, so I can imagine a call. But lots of straights out there.. Looks to me he gave up on the turn and miraculously hit his card on the river. I'd find a fold.


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

Originally posted by rrrood
I don't really get villains check behind on the turn. FWIW I'm betting the turn for value and protection.
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You're betting a pair of sixes for value. :f_eek:

It's a standard free card play on the flop made by someone who plays holdem.

I don't mind hero's turn play here so long as the plan is to checkraise shove. As it is getting to the river cheaply with 2 pair and no redraws is okay.

River is extremely hard to fold as all the obvious draws have missed, plus with our flat calling the flop raise and checking the turn we do look weak. I would have a hard time folding this river and would really need some kind of read on villains bet sizing that he bets big with big hands and bluffs smaller to be able to fold this.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

So are you basically saying, that i should check/jam top 2 in this kind of spots? I'm really interested in this, since when it usually happens i'm against a set


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

Then fold if you don't think you're ahead.

What you shouldn't be doing is taking a passive line on the turn where you don't charge the draws and still put your stack in on the river against a set.


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rrrood
Joined: 22.11.2007

Originally posted by Ribbo

Originally posted by rrrood
I don't really get villains check behind on the turn. FWIW I'm betting the turn for value and protection.
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You're betting a pair of sixes for value. :f_eek:

It's a standard free card play on the flop made by someone who plays holdem.

I don't mind hero's turn play here so long as the plan is to checkraise shove. As it is getting to the river cheaply with 2 pair and no redraws is okay.

River is extremely hard to fold as all the obvious draws have missed, plus with our flat calling the flop raise and checking the turn we do look weak. I would have a hard time folding this river and would really need some kind of read on villains bet sizing that he bets big with big hands and bluffs smaller to be able to fold this.

3 pair never loses :f_grin:


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