zoom nl100 KK sqz top set on flop, weak turn line; river quads

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Tim64

Joined: 03.11.2008

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24.11.2012, 17:59 0

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($251)
BB ($201)
UTG ($367)
UTG+1 ($103)
Hero ($235)
BTN ($31)

Dealt to Hero K♦ K♥

UTG raises to $3, UTG+1 calls $3, Hero raises to $12, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $9, fold

FLOP ($28.50) T♣ K♠ 7♦

UTG checks, Hero bets $21.50, UTG calls $21.50

TURN ($71.50) T♣ K♠ 7♦ J♠

UTG checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($71.50) T♣ K♠ 7♦ J♠ K♣

UTG bets $44.50, Hero raises to $202 (AI), UTG folds

utg appears to be a reg. mp unk. No stats. Lots of questions from gto p.o.v. :

1. Should I make it bigger pre given stack depth?
2. If our 3b gets 4b, and mp folds, are we mostly just flatting given depth and positions (i.e. 5b/calling just pits us against Aces)?
3. Flop is dry. If villain doesn't have TT I don't see that much value (i expect him to ch/f QQ on turn at least). How is our sizing with nuts?
4. If villain has TT should he ch/R the flop or just call?
5. Turn brings another possible underset and also a straight. Could villain have AQ here and call the g/shot+ over on the flop or is that pretty unlikely?
6. My checkback seems horribly weak and is almost certainly bad. If betting, do we bet/call/shv b/c he can have TT/JJ now or b/f because he is only ch/R the nuts at this point given our line?
7. If villain has TT or JJ and his opponent bets turn (e.g. $50-60) what should he do?
8. OTR, can villain comfortably valuebet AQ/TT and JJ given hero's weak line? Are all these hands of similar value or should he consider himself clearly ahead with some and blockbetting with others?
9. Given the action, should hero shove or make a smaller value raise? Do you think villain b/c JJ here against a shove (and should he?)? Does he probably bet bigger since AK now has trips?
10. What hands are most likely for villain given the action and how much value did we miss with our turn check (on average, against that range)?

Srry 4 wall of text. Numbered answers would be hugely appreciated :heart:

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mbml

Joined: 27.11.2008

Posts: 20,957

25.11.2012, 03:15 0

1. You can make it 15
2. I think you are right. No point isolating vs AA without dynamics. Of course if you have aggro 4b and 5b dynamics you should also repop him with 2nd nuts.
3. I think it's too big. Just 2/3 pot will do. You block all the KX hands after all.
4. If there's a flush draw he should c/r cos this flop is really coordinated. I think he could go both ways on this rainbow flop. but he needs to balance his line with some bluffs.

5. I'll expect him to c/c with AQ for sure.
6. Turn is one of the yuckiest cards but I still bet, on the smaller side. Maybe 35-40$. If we get raised, just call and hope he bluffs or has worse for value.
7. It's really hard to say. Probably c/r and try to go for value vs AK and AA. If you are never getting called by worse, then probably c/c. If you are never getting called by worse, it's because you don't bluff enough in these spots. I can see myself turning AJ and AT into a bluff here sometimes.
8. All are the same, cos no one expects such a nitty check from you.
9. Just ship. He never has KX here so I think his value range is mostly what you said. Perhaps he goes for thin value with QQ and JX some small % of the time but I doubt he calls a raise with those hands anyway.
10. He could have some KX on the turn (though really unlikely), he can also continue calling QJs QTs JTs AJs 77 TT JJ which is way more combos of hands than AQ and 89s.

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