Coaching: No-Limit [Beginner] with Bierbaer

Hi,

here are the hands from today's coaching:

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BB$2.43:///////;MP1 (Hero)$11.61:///////;MP2$9.70:///////;MP3$5.23:///////;CO$10.96:///////;BU$9.70:///////;SB$15.25:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T:c, T:d.
Hero raises to $0.35, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.35, 3 folds, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.1) Q:d, 7:c, J:d (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: ($1.1) Q:h (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

River: ($1.1) 9:s (3 players)
BB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, MP3 raises to $0.80, BB folds, Hero calls $0.70

After checking flop and especially turn he doesn't rep anything => Snapcall river.

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BB$4.40:///////;MP1$3.85:///////;MP2$12.60:///////;MP3$4.00:///////;CO$10.18:///////;BU (Hero)$11.71:///////;SB$14.84:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BU with A:s, A:c.
MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $0.35, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.05, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.70.

Flop: ($2.25) K:d, 7:c, 3:c (2 players)
MP2 bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60.

Turn: ($5.45) J:d (2 players)
MP2 bets $2.60, Hero raises to $9.06(All-In)

No reads on the opponent.
On the flop the plan is to induce.

On the turn we're facing a lot of draws - generally on a blank I'd absolutely recommend calling to induce, however the J hits his range very hard in terms of gutshots, pairs and FDs.
So he's almost committed oftentimes and will probably make bigger mistakes vs a shove than against a call from us.

Discuss!

Thank you for posting! Great coaching. ♠_cool:

Hi,

here are the notes from today's coaching:

Typical limping range of fish, 55/10:
TT-22, A9s-A2s, KTs-K2s, QTs-Q5s, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 53s+, 43s, ATo-A2o, KJo-K8o, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o,

87o, 76o

(i) raise UTG/MP and CO/BU call
(ii) raise CO and BU call
(iii) raise CO/BU and one of the blinds calls

(o1) Loose/passive player (fish)
(o2) Regular (TAG)

Combinations:

(i), (o2):
TT-22, ATs+, A5s-A2s, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, AQo+

(ii), (o2):
TT-22, AQs-A2s, K7s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, AQo-A8o, KTo+, QJo, JTo, T9o

Needed Foldequity:
(risked_amount) / (current_pot + risked_amount)

Pot Equity:
(risked_amount) / (current_pot + risked_amount + opponent's_call)

We raise to 3bb in the CO, BB calls
=> Pot on flop: 6.5bb.

We cbet 4.5bb => We need 4.5bb / (6.5bb + 4.5bb) = 41% FEQ

We also have PEQ!

Example:

Board: K♦5♥2♣
       Equity     Win     Tie
CO     10.89%  10.86%   0.03% { 7c6c }
BB     89.11%  89.09%   0.03% { 99-55, 22, KJs-K7s, QTs, KTo+ }

Opponent's range on flop [18.4%]:
99-22, AJs-A2s, K6s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 87s, 76s, AQo-A9o, KTo+

Opponent continues with [7.2%]:
99-55, 22, KJs-K7s, QTs, KTo+

=> He continues with 7.2% of 18.4% or 7.2% / 18.4% = 39% of his range.
=> He folds 100% - 39% = 61% of his range => 61% FEQ.

Phil

Great explanations, thanks.

Great coaching, with a really personal positive attitude. Deserves more followers.

Is tonight a live playing, strategy discussion or hand evaluation coaching?

Originally posted by otb11
Great coaching, with a really personal positive attitude. Deserves more followers.

+1

Oke I follow you! Good coachings and the math what I dont understand... Yet

Hey guys,

thanks :).

Here's the hand from today's coaching:

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BB 10.00:///////;MP 39.99:///////;CO 11.18:///////;BU 22.12:///////;SB (Hero) 10.00:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with K:c, A:s.
3 folds, Hero raises to 0.30, BB calls 0.20.

Flop: (0.6) 8:s, 5:s, 2:h (2 players)
Hero bets 0.50, BB calls 0.50.

The flop is a cbet since we have overcards + BDFD. However, even here we should do it with a plan:I decided to go for a 3barrel since his flop-callingrange is generally pretty weak as he would 3bet TT+ preflop and can have a maximum of 9 set combos in his flop calling range.Also if he calls flop AND turn his range is usually capped at 8x.This also means that betting flop and turn followed by checking the river is usually a terrible play - he's calling flop & turn with all kinds of 8x and 66 type hands and checks back on river where we lose with Ahigh.=> It's a bet 1 or bet 3 spot - and betting 3 seems really nice given 8x has a very hard time calling 3 streets and will in fact fold the river almost always.

Turn: (1.6) 4:h (2 players)
Hero bets 1.25, BB calls 1.25.

River: (4.1) 9:c (2 players)
Hero bets 2.60

Hope this makes some sense

Phil

Today:

2nd barrels
1. Why
2. When
3. Against whom
4. Against whom not
5. Sample hands

1. Why?
As always there are 2 scenarios:
a) for value - we're ahead of the opponents range and expect to get called from worse hands.
b) as a bluff - we're behind against the opponents range, but we expect him to fold enough hands that beat us.

2. When?

(i) Value
We have a strong hand and want to get value. There's not too much to discuss here except:
sometimes value not as obv, can valuebet thinly vs draws and medium strength made hands, especially when opponent bluffcatch-happy

(ii) Thin value
We have a medium strength hand and want some more value but check/calling would be non-optimal because the opponent would check back worse valuehands and draws.
This is a bit more of an interesting spot already.

[See sample hand 1]

(iii) Bluff with a lot of foldequity
When scarecards fall on the turn that hit our perceived range (the range the opponents expects us to have).
In general these scarecards are overcards to the board or for example a Q on a Khigh board.

[See sample hand 2]

Another opportunity for bluff2ndbarreling arises when a lot of draws get there that we can represent.

[See sample hand 3]

(iv) Semibluff with decent foldequity + decent potequity
This is also a common spot: we raised a hand preflop, bet on the flop and the opponent called. Now on the turn we pick up a card that gives us a lot of additional equity - we can not bet solely with the potequity, but sometimes there are some hands in the opponents range we can get to fold.

[See sample hand 4]

Note 1) The first thing to consider is always the opponents range.
Note 2) Before betting also consider your range! Are those draws that just completed even possible for you to represent?
Note 3) Consider your image!

3. Against whom?
Once more: The opponents range is the first thing to consider!
This is read-dependant. In general everybody who calls a lot of cbets is a good target because his turnrange can not include many strong hands.
This applies for TAGs and rocks as well as loose-passive and maniac-like players. However, there are a few exceptions (see below).
Once more: reads are the key to successful 2nd-barreling! Just mindlessly firing scarecards on the turn is burning money against most player types.

Actually recreational (i.e. loose/passive) players can be good candidates for 2ndbarreling because they call a lot on the flop but fold a lot on the turn (keyword: reads!).

4. Against whom not to 2nd-barrel?
Some players call a lot of cbets and therefore have a very weak range on the turn - but they still refuse to fold, may it be by calling again or by raising.
Obviously those are the ones you should either not 2nd barrel or fire 3 barrels against (which I would only recommend if you're very sure that what you do is correct).
The people to watch out for are (generally speaking) rocks and maniacs.
It's dangerous to be aggressive against a rock because he has a hand most often.

Note1: A rock might call a lot of cbets, but he still has a strong range.
Note2: A maniac might not call a lot of cbets but he does have a weak range when he calls because he raises all the strong hands.

5. Sample Hands

Hand 1:

NL Holdem 0.5BB/1BB

SB (100BB)
BB (100BB)
UTG (100BB)
MP (100BB)
CO (100BB)
Hero (100BB)

Dealt to Hero K♦9:s

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3BB, fold, BB calls

Flop (7BB) T♣9♣4♠
BB checks, Hero bets 5BB, BB calls

Turn (17BB) 5♥
BB checks, Hero ???

-> Hero bets 12BB
9BB can be OK too.

Note: Keep balancing in mind!

Hand 2:

NL Holdem 0.5BB/1BB

SB (100BB)
BB (100BB)
UTG (100BB)
MP (100BB)
CO (100BB)
Hero (100BB)

Dealt to Hero xx

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3BB, fold, BB calls

Flop (7BB) Q♣9♣4♠
BB checks, Hero bets 5BB, BB calls

Turn (17BB) A♥
BB checks, Hero ???

-> Hero bets 14BB

Note: This is an opponent-dependant spot.

Hand 3:

NL Holdem 0.5BB/1BB

SB (100BB)
Hero (100BB)
UTG (100BB)
MP (100BB)
CO (100BB)
BU (100BB)

Dealt to Hero xx

fold, fold, fold, BU raises to 3BB, fold, Hero calls

Flop (7BB) 7 :diamond:6 :heart:3
Hero checks, BU bets 4BB, Hero raises to 16BB, BU calls

Turn (39BB) T♥
Hero ???

-> Hero bets 31BB

Note: Once more this is opponent dependant (he needs to be capable of folding an overpair).

Hand 4:

NL Holdem 0.5BB/1BB

SB (100BB)
BB (100BB)
UTG (100BB)
MP (100BB)
CO (100BB)
Hero (100BB)

Dealt to Hero A :diamond:5

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3BB, fold, BB calls

Flop (7BB) Q♣9♣4
BB checks, Hero bets 5BB, BB calls

Turn (17BB) 3
BB checks, Hero ???

-> Hero bets 12BB-14BB

Thank you for the great coaching ♠_love:

Please extend the coaching to 1.5 hours instead of 1. One hour isn't enough to go more indepth and completely understand/analyse hands properly and the last few minutes need to be rushed then.

Same thing with strategy discussion coachings and live play coachings. I like how I can go deeper into various concepts with Bierbaer and there just isn't enough time in one hour.

Today again a very good coaching, good analysis and explaining. The explaining has really good depth so you can definitely learn a lot ;), also the previous session, when we looked along with Bier was very good and learned very much.

so thx for the coaching cya next week or so ♦

Hi,

thank you very much for the feedback.
I will ask if there's any chance we can make the coachings longer :).

Best regards
Phil

+1 Longer coaching ♦

Is there any way i can watch the coaching videos that have already been recorded?

Longer coachings would be great!

Originally posted by painterman007
Longer coachings would be great!
+1

i was going to suggest maybe just more coaching sessions like another night or 2 during the week. and maybe not only beginner could be an idea

Rogier is a dutch coach and he gives every week 30 mins to somebody lifecoaching. Maybe you can do this when the lessons are 30 mins longer.

For the rest you learn us the math really good what is I think the most important if it is about preflop game theorie.

You also talk from subject to subject and maybe you get not enough time for everything but this is not the most important because we learn deeper stuff and the lessons start over every x weeks. To be political correct this can be bad but dont change it imo. I mean all the teachers hate me in school because I ask the most things and everybody thinks me for stupid and then the test come and I have an A so for me this works the best.

I try to find something to be crtitical:

Free dinner for following coachings is better.
Free beers and...
Free girls maybe...

Perhaps we can persuade our coach [or PokerStrategy] to produce a short course on the fundamental mathematics of poker and deliver it in a similar way to the beginners course, i.e., as a carousel course where attendees can jump in and out as they wish, thus if they didn't quite get the idea first time round they have other chances.
I would also like to see quizzes or something similar to encourage more audience participation; perhaps a small prize or twelve as enticement? ♦

This may also help those who get a bit lost, as the conversation sometimes get's a little deeper than beginner level and I don't expect coaches like to restrict or exclude questons from those who maybe can't attend a higher level session for some reason.

And yes I do know that learning something about poker in isolation has it's pitfalls, but beginners especially seem to have a lot of difficulty retaining, if not learning, the mathematics required for the level.

Have fun.